Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (29 Viewers)

Nick

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My Nan has had over 40 flu shots. So fucking what?

Aren't they offered to over 50's and vulnerable people once a year for that reason because they assume everybody else doesn't really need them?

I don't think I've ever had one.
 

Liquid Gold

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Aren't they offered to over 50's and vulnerable people once a year for that reason because they assume everybody else doesn't really need them?

I don't think I've ever had one.
Lets get to that stage with covid then and in the meantime make sure we vaccine everybody so we don't have to piss around with lockdowns until we know what's going on.

actually some people would have been given 4 in the U.K. some people with immune issues would have been given a 3rd shot before the booster
So people who are vulnerable to serious complications and death have been identified and protected and that's a bad thing because?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
As I said, give it a while and you will be getting a hard on about unvaccinated people being arrested.

Meanwhile, you worry that your vaccinated missus will be ill and pass it to her vaccinated relatives. (Which I also hope never happens).

Don't really see the logic in that.
Haha, get fucked.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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But you're a big free thinker. Just a massive coincidence you've spent years repeating everything from breitbart verbatim.

When people scream things like breitbart, it just shows how bottom of the barrel you have to go to try and win an argument.

Liverpool have 99% of the squad vaccinated according to Klopp, yet they are cancelling games. The vaccine is not stopping the spread and to blame the continuation of the pandemic on the unvaccinated makes very little sense for the most part.

You, like many people, have lost all perspective of the virus.
 

Liquid Gold

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When people scream things like breitbart, it just shows how bottom of the barrel you have to go to try and win an argument.

Liverpool have 99% of the squad vaccinated according to Klopp, yet they are cancelling games. The vaccine is not stopping the spread and to blame the continuation of the pandemic on the unvaccinated makes very little sense for the most part.

You, like many people, have lost all perspective of the virus.
Everybody is scraping the barrel but you again.
 

Nick

Administrator
It's yet another one of your bullshit made up situations.
Back in reality I actually I know several unvaccinated people and even met one of them earlier on.

As I said, give it a bit of time.

Back in reality I also know vaccinated, boosted and unvaccinated people. What's your point?
 

Nick

Administrator
Lets get to that stage with covid then and in the meantime make sure we vaccine everybody so we don't have to piss around with lockdowns until we know what's going on.

So when the next vaccine evading variant appears and it needs another 2 next October, where does it end with just keep having them all the time?

How can countries say how many more will be needed? Can they see into the future with what will happen when Omicron dies out?

Let's face it, the whole "vax v anti vax" stuff is being driven massively as well. Create that divide.
 

Liquid Gold

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So when the next vaccine evading variant appears and it needs another 2 next October, where does it end with just keep having them all the time?

How can countries say how many more will be needed? Can they see into the future with what will happen when Omicron dies out?
The simple solution would be for the copyright of the vaccines to be made free to reproduce worldwide so we can vaccinate the world and lessen the chances of it mutating.
 

Nick

Administrator
The simple solution would be for the copyright of the vaccines to be made free to reproduce worldwide so we can vaccinate the world and lessen the chances of it mutating.

In an ideal world yes.

So instead of throwing billions at the people stopping it, why don't countries tell them to sort their act out?

Even then, it's still possible for mutations/spread/ people having it in their system when they die.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
In an ideal world yes.

So instead of throwing billions at the people stopping it, why don't countries tell them to sort their act out?

Even then, it's still possible for mutations/spread/ people having it in their system when they die.
Politics and capital are so intertwined as to basically be the same. How many ministers have links to pharmaceutical and private health?
 

chiefdave

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2 becomes 3.


Isn't this how it works for every vaccine? If you're not up to date according to the required vaccine schedule you're not considered vaccinated.

I'm pretty sure we should be using a system at least as robust as the one required by my dog to go to daycare.
 

Nick

Administrator
Politics and capital are so intertwined as to basically be the same. How many ministers have links to pharmaceutical and private health?

Yet when I say this it's a tin hat consipiracy ;)

If it was about health and saving from COVID so much, why don't the big countries turn round and say "Actually, we will only use companies who will allow the world to use it".

Like you say, what's the point in throwing tens of billions over to the big companies for the 8th jab for 25 year old's next year when in some countries there will be OAPS with nothing. It's round and round in a big circle.
 

hill83

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What’s the craic with the booster and getting in places then? I’ve got Covid right now and I’m absolutely wiped out by it. So I can’t have the booster for a while can I?
 

Liquid Gold

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Yet when I say this it's a tin hat consipiracy ;)

If it was about health and saving from COVID so much, why don't the big countries turn round and say "Actually, we will only use companies who will allow the world to use it".

Like you say, what's the point in throwing tens of billions over to the big companies for the 8th jab for 25 year old's next year when in some countries there will be OAPS with nothing. It's round and round in a big circle.
Without turning it into another left right thing we had our chance to change things and we chose Boris fucking Johnson. We have to deal with it.

They aren't going to do the right thing so we have to keep getting vaccinated until COVID isn't an issue and I don't give two shits if unvaccinated people are restricted because of it to protect others who can't be vaccinated.
 

Liquid Gold

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What’s the craic with the booster and getting in places then? I’ve got Covid right now and I’m absolutely wiped out by it. So I can’t have the booster for a while can I?
You can still get your covid entry pass 10 days after your positive PCR came in.
 

Nick

Administrator
What’s the craic with the booster and getting in places then? I’ve got Covid right now and I’m absolutely wiped out by it. So I can’t have the booster for a while can I?
At the minute you can still do a negative lateral test and report it to the app with being double.

Will depend if they remove the test option.

Randomly my daughter doesn't need to test for school for 90 days as she has just had it. (She has had multiple negatives to be sure though but didn't have to).
 

hill83

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You can still get your covid entry pass 10 days after your positive PCR came in.

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Skybluefaz

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What’s the craic with the booster and getting in places then? I’ve got Covid right now and I’m absolutely wiped out by it. So I can’t have the booster for a while can I?
How long after having Covid do I need to wait to have my booster?
If you’ve tested positive for Covid-19, you need to wait four weeks (28 days) from the day of your positive test to have a booster. This gap will help to separate any side effects of the vaccine from effects of your illness. If you’ve already booked your booster appointment and then test positive, make sure to log in and reschedule your booking

Hope you feel better soon.
 

Liquid Gold

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At the minute you can still do a negative lateral test and report it to the app with being double.

Will depend if they remove the test option.
You still can't get a pass to go to events and the like with that. You can come out of isolation after 7 days with 2 negative LFTs but for the pass you still have to wait 10 days until after infection.
 

hill83

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How long after having Covid do I need to wait to have my booster?
If you’ve tested positive for Covid-19, you need to wait four weeks (28 days) from the day of your positive test to have a booster. This gap will help to separate any side effects of the vaccine from effects of your illness. If you’ve already booked your booster appointment and then test positive, make sure to log in and reschedule your booking

Hope you feel better soon.

Probably could have searched that myself to be fair. Cheers though. Think I’m going to risk a beer tonight. So bored.

Edit: a can at home, not the pub for the record
 

Nick

Administrator
You still can't get a pass to go to events and the like with that. You can come out of isolation after 7 days with 2 negative LFTs but for the pass you still have to wait 10 days until after infection.
Ah yeah I just assumed he meant after isolation.
 

skybluetony176

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When people scream things like breitbart, it just shows how bottom of the barrel you have to go to try and win an argument.

Liverpool have 99% of the squad vaccinated according to Klopp, yet they are cancelling games. The vaccine is not stopping the spread and to blame the continuation of the pandemic on the unvaccinated makes very little sense for the most part.

You, like many people, have lost all perspective of the virus.
Of course it’s the fault of the unvaccinated. We’re still having to take measures to protect the vulnerable and the most vulnerable is the unvaccinated. We’re pretty much at the point now where a moronic small number of the population is holding the sensible majority of the population hostage.
 

Nick

Administrator
Of course it’s the fault of the unvaccinated. We’re still having to take measures to protect the vulnerable and the most vulnerable is the unvaccinated. We’re pretty much at the point now where a moronic small number of the population is holding the sensible majority of the population hostage.
Just like the fully vaccinated Liverpool squad. Wasn't long ago klopp was moaning about lower League teams and their protocols.

Least blaming everything on unvaccinated means those at the top aren't getting blamed.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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How long after having Covid do I need to wait to have my booster?
If you’ve tested positive for Covid-19, you need to wait four weeks (28 days) from the day of your positive test to have a booster. This gap will help to separate any side effects of the vaccine from effects of your illness. If you’ve already booked your booster appointment and then test positive, make sure to log in and reschedule your booking

Hope you feel better soon.
28 days I think
 

chiefdave

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Would you believe
Would I believe the Mail? Not as a general rule tbh.

Interesting that 'experts say' equates to two professors from the University of East Anglia who, a quick google reveals, put their name to the Great Barrington Declaration and have been saying we should just 'let it rip' and have no restrictions or mitigations whatsoever since a few months after the pandemic started back in 2020 before we even had a vaccine.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Just like the fully vaccinated Liverpool squad. Wasn't long ago klopp was moaning about lower League teams and their protocols.

Least blaming everything on unvaccinated means those at the top aren't getting blamed.

How many of the Liverpool squad have symptoms?
 

skybluetony176

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Just like the fully vaccinated Liverpool squad.
A) They’re not fully vaccinated.

B) You’re spectacularly missing the point. If everyone who can be vaccinated is vaccinated it wouldn’t matter if a team of young footballers, all vaccinated but half of them had asymptomatic covid played another team who were all vaccinated and likely to be asymptomatic if they were to catch it. The problem is “grown up” anti-vaxxers who are now amongst the most vulnerable by choice need protecting from themselves so unilaterally we have to take measures to protect them. It doesn’t matter if you’re 25 play elite sport, are super fit and fully vaccinated or if you’re over 50, overweight, diabetic and fully vaccinated. You’re both subject to controls and paying a price to protect what is now probably the most vulnerable group. Moronic anti-vaxxers.
 

Liquid Gold

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Just like the fully vaccinated Liverpool squad. Wasn't long ago klopp was moaning about lower League teams and their protocols.

Least blaming everything on unvaccinated means those at the top aren't getting blamed.
It wouldn't matter if people were getting it and not getting ill as they're vaccinated (like the Liverpool squad) if there was no risk (ofr much less risk) of passing it on to someone that it could kill.

If we were all vaxxed there would be no reason the government could put forward to put new restrictions in.
 

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