David O'Day
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It's not crazy, he was advised this by phe so that's what he told Londoners.
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mark82
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In fairness, as much as I disagree, that article is dated 3rd March when there were still very few cases in this country. The risk at that time was still probably pretty low and the advice from the government at the time was to carry on as normal.
David O'Day
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Yeah that was in the telegraph. Makes sense.
Keep the park open for those more local
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David O'Day
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It states in the article as well he was given this advise by phe
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Ring Of Steel
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I’m sure Marty will be along shortly to confirm that he is mistaken... won’t he?
Marty
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So what are we saying here? That experts often get it wrong? you should think of that everytime you mention experts in regards to Brexit.
shmmeee
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What poor decision making. You’ve gone back to before the outbreak to complain about his saying it was safe when it was safe while ignoring the fact the people in charge of the whole country were at that point boasting about how they were shaking hands with patients.
As they’re both politicians saying the same thing I was just wondering why Sadiq Khan upset you so much. Your touchy reaction answers that for me, thanks.
Ring Of Steel
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It’s a good point and at least in ‘the media’ a lot of fingers are starting to point at these “experts”, who were already under scrutiny from other members of the scientific/ medical community anyway. But it does seem that they’re currently being lined up to take a huge portion of the blame for all the mistakes made.
shmmeee
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Expert advice has never been to enter a hospitals full or virus patients and shake everyone’s hands. Ever.
Otis
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Hmmm..... would agreed with you, but it depends that we knew at time that we should not be making direct physical contact with Coronavirus sufferers.
mark82
Super Moderator
It's not necessarily that the experts got it wrong, it's more that there were only 39 cases in the whole country at the time. We were also told going to work and to large events like football matches was safe. Why just pick what Sadiq Khan was saying at that time? Why not pick out what all political leaders and advisors were saying?
Ring Of Steel
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I think one pertinent point for you is “don’t just read the headline” or you run the risk of looking silly.
TomRad85
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And so they should be. I actually read something you posted yesterday and it was a good read. Fuck ups galore from the 'experts'.
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clint van damme
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How does getting it wrong on this occasion equate to often getting it wrong?
Marty
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As a leader of a major city, seeing cases grow, I would expect a bit of critical thinking, and seeing potential for large people to become infected.
Only one who mentioned his religion was you your clown.
Otis
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We should criticise all people, from all political spectrums when they get it wrong. It is not just us and them, left and right.
If they get the advice wrong we should criticse all sides, whichever side they are on.
Ring Of Steel
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And the logical question is “who appointed these experts”, and from what I see & read that line most likely stops somewhere in the vicinity of Dominic Cummings, the real PM, who values ‘science’ and eugenics more than genuine experts in their own disciplines.
Marty
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I have criticized many white politicians and experts as well over the handling off this outbreak, or am I only allowed to mention a brown politician if I mention a white one at the same time?
Skybluefaz
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Council have said all council parks car parks are to be closed off
Marty
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They're only wrong when they have a different view point with you?
clint van damme
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The Boris handshake got so much traction because when people were speculating that might be how he caught the virus people were saying it didn't happen despite video evidence.
The way (I think Chris Whitty) stepped in at the press conference would also suggest the PM was not adhering to what he'd been told.
Skybluefaz
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WITH HINDSIGHT IT SEEMS CRAZY. YOU REALLY ARE AS BAD AS GRENDEL
clint van damme
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Your ability to make massive leaps like that is incredible (and not in a good way).
shmmeee
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No, you’re supposed to have actual criticism and not shit ripped straight from the Britain First FB feed.
Otis
Well-Known Member
Crazy from PHE, yes.
Skybluefaz
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Yes, just the notion in itself
clint van damme
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Did you get tested Shmmeee?
skybluetony176
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Also worth pointing out that the NHS also has a disproportionately high number of BAME staff, especially true of doctors and nurses. In fact when you think about it of all the pictures they’ve shown of doctors who have come out of retirement to help the NHS, caught Coronavirus and then subsequently died I’m struggling to remember seeing a picture of a white doctor being amongst them. I think they announced another death of a retired doctor coming out retirement yesterday and he was from Sri Lanka originally. Maybe the Lurker should be looking for these stories and then having a long hard think about his life.
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shmmeee
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No. Went for a checkup at the hub and the decided it’s bronchitis so no need for a test.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Not exactly a walk in the park bronchitis.
Could have been worse though so good(ish) news
Looks like it was another fun night in here last night.
Just caught up. My personal highlight:
Lurker being asked what he thinks makes someone racist:
And here he is literally minutes earlier:
Quite literally judging someone on skin colour.
Daft old racist.
Just caught up. My personal highlight:
Lurker being asked what he thinks makes someone racist:
And here he is literally minutes earlier:
Quite literally judging someone on skin colour.
Daft old racist.
Marty
Well-Known Member
It was a genuine criticism, it's poor decision making from those in power. Why are you so defensive over a Muslim politician? are they beyond judgement?
mark82
Super Moderator
I didn't mention his skin colour. My assumption was more that you were singling him out because he was a labour politician.
I'm not saying I agree with the advice at the time, but it's very difficult to lockdown quickly like they did in an authoritarian state like China. There were always other factors at play. If we're criticizing anyone it should be Public Health England, but it's still criticism in hindsight. From that point the situation changed very quickly - the day after there was a large surge in cases. It wasn't until 10 days later that football was suspended though, which looks very late considering we now know that the Atalanta Vs Valencia game was what caused the huge spread in Italy and contributed to an acceleration in Spain.
Grendel
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Sorry I’ve got bored now but I should at least answer this
In truth I didn’t read much of what you said on here it’s your past history that singles you out. The Tommy Robinson stuff in particular
clint van damme
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But it's been pointed out that he was just parroting what he was told.
Imagine if he ignored the chief medical officer?
Like I said, not a fan of his but I can't see this was on him.