Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (18 Viewers)

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I think Timmy Mallet would have done a really shit job dealing with this. That also has no relevance because he also hasn't been in the position to do anything about it.

Which party does Timmy Mallet represent?

Asking for a friend

 

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[Liquid Gold]

Which party does Timmy Mallet represent?

Asking for a friend

The gopher party? It doesn't matter because he hasn't been involved in government for 10 years.

 

[skybluetony176]

Have a goose at this. Lab created. Was never from some prick chowing down on bat soup

Check out who released it first. Another bunch of far right, deep state and anti vacs conspiracy theorists religious cult. They make David Ike look grounded.

 

[Brylowes]

You said this crisis would be worse under Labour... with no discernible or credible evidence to back up that view. I’m calling it out because it’s a) pure whataboutery b) deflection and c) total bullshit.
.

Well there’s one thing we can be absolutely certain on,
The NHS was already a crumbling wreck before Covid 19 was even a thing, ten years of severe
austerity measures have seen to that, serious questions are already asked every winter ‘as to
whether or not it will be able to cope with the seasonal outbreak of ordinary Flu.
Those austerity measures have seen the NHS shrink by 10.000 Doctors, 40.000 Nurses as well
As several thousand beds, these unprecedented cuts to staff alongside swathing cuts to budgets
For all other medical resources have to take there toll ‘and they do.

The NHS couldn’t really be facing this pandemic in worse shape ‘and that comes down to policies
Of this Government ‘in all its guises’ over the last ten years ‘nobody else.
Would Labour have embarked on a programme of Austerity ? Of course not.
Would Labour have neglected the NHS and culled staff numbers ? Of course non.

So if nothing else ‘the NHS would have been facing this fight in a much healthier position Than
It finds itself now.
And if people say I’m politicising the situation Tough Shit !!
People are dying in large numbers Because of Governmental decisions ‘and they have to be
Held accountable.

 

[shmmeee]

Have a goose at this. Lab created. Was never from some prick chowing down on bat soup

From the same people that brought you anti vaccine, QAnon, and other Trump conspiracy theories.

 

[David O'Day]

Over here I mean. Just didn't think it was worth it? A mild, or moderate case can surely turn into a severe case can't it. Often the symptoms start off as mild don't they?

Yeah it is a drug that is worth looking at

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The gopher party? It doesn't matter because he hasn't been involved in government for 10 years.

But if the government are really shit and Timmy Mallet is the only realistic opposition to bring them down and make the country better, then I guess it is relevant at a time like this where the way our country is governed is under a microscope.

 

[Liquid Gold]

But if the government are really shit and Timmy Mallet is the only realistic opposition to bring them down and make the country better, then I guess it is relevant at a time like this where the way our country is governed is under a microscope.

Nobody can bring them down, they have a stonking majority and 5 years of doing whatever the fuck they like, now is the perfect time for people to suck it up and see what they voted for.

 

[Johhny Blue]

Check out who released it first. Another bunch of far right, deep state and anti vacs conspiracy theorists religious cult. They make David Ike look grounded.

But it was on the internet so we should believe it

 

[Ian1779]

But if the government are really shit and Timmy Mallet is the only realistic opposition to bring them down and make the country better, then I guess it is relevant at a time like this where the way our country is governed is under a microscope.

Realistic opposition is the biggest fucking misnomer of all. What you mean is compliant opposition.

 

[Brylowes]

But if the government are really shit and Timmy Mallet is the only realistic opposition to bring them down and make the country better, then I guess it is relevant at a time like this where the way our country is governed is under a microscope.

You seem to be of the opinion that Labour were utterly useless and completely unelectable.

If that is your opinion ‘and of course you are entitled to it, what is it that they Said or did to
make you think that way, which of Labour’s policies led you to this way of thinking.

 

[Astute]

Criticise both sides all you want. One side has been in charge for a decade and done fuck all to prepare the NHS for anything like this and in actual fact made it less capable due to ideologically enforced privatisations and the other side hasn’t. Hypothetical ‘the other side are just as bad’ is pathetic stawman bollocks.

And here is the problem. And before you try to make out it is a dig at Labour supporters it isn't.

Look....have a go at the party I don't support but don't you dare have a go at the party I do support. And if you do I will make up a comment and get backed up by others.

Want a debate? Not possible.

Want proof? Boris is an absolute idiot. But defended to the hilt by most Tories. Corbyn.....no chance of becoming PM. But until it couldn't be denied anymore he was the man.

NHS? Yes the normal shitshow from the Tories. If you are honest or not a Tory whatever you won't even try to deny this. But if you are Labour whatever you will want to forget that Labour speeded up privatisation of the NHS under Bliar and Brown. Those measures are still in place. Those measures take billions out of the NHS every year.

But yes I am a twat because I dare say what I see.

 

[Astute]

You seem to be of the opinion that Labour were utterly useless and completely unelectable.

If that is your opinion ‘and of course you are entitled to it, what is it that they Said or did to
make you think that way, which of Labour’s policies led you to this way of thinking.

Why do some like yourself still try to deny this?

This is the problem with Labour mentality. You were not allowed to say anything about what you could see. But anyone who doesn't vote Labour because it is what they do could see it.

Corbyn. Lots of skeletons in the closet. No charisma. Never put a point across with conviction. Brexit? Lost a lot more votes than he gained by not wanting to say what he would do. Anti EU all his life. But said a few things about remaining. Should have been much more clear on the matter.

McDonnell. Lots of skeletons in the closet. Looked to be the puppet master. Long term close friend of Corbyn.

Abbott. Vilified for being thick. But I don't think anyone would say she isn't thick. Just mention the hard time she got. Ex fuckpiece of Corbyn.

Choosing people to help you should be putting the best people in place. Not thise who have been with you for over 30 years in whatever you have done.

On to policies. Free broadband for everyone. This included the rich. About 50 billion initial cost. Hundreds of millions to run each year. Billions more needed in investment.

Untold billions to be spent on nationalizing utilities and transport. Transport would be first. When I was against this I was called the usual names. Yeah let's spend lots of billions bringing back the train services. But when I said about just waiting until the contracts were over and nit pay thise untold billions out the penny dropped on most. More untold billions would have been wasted.

Labour had a chance? You don't honestly believe that do you?

The Tories were in turmoil. They ended up making an absolute clown the PM. Recipe for disaster. No decent policies. But he had one line.

We heard that most of us were supposed to be Remainers at the time of the last election. Yet get Brexit done won the election campaign for the Tories. Why was this?

 

[Astute]

I can’t stand Patel for many reasons ‘this isn’t and won’t become one of them.
The abuse including death threats that Abbott endures is unbelievable ‘and whatever Patel
Gets up to in the future ‘she will never truly receive the Abbott treatment.

The biggest fault with the internet is it gives freedom to keyboard warriors. It gives the courage to someone who is scared of their own shadow to insult everyone. It has become a big part of everyone's life.

I am glad I didn't grow up with the internet in place. As a family we were poor. Single mother who worked all the hours she could get. No dad to show me right from wrong. Brought up in the select council estates in Coventry.

But I had a great childhood. When not at school I went out as soon as it got light. Went home as it got dark. You learned about life. You learned how to look after yourself. You learned what really matters in life. Everyone would listen to their neighbours. I was scared of them on both sides of us more than anyone else in the world. And only because I respected them.

Fast forward to now. My upbringing now would be a perfect excuse for being an absolute tosser. I would look up to influencers on the internet. I would have learned you don't need to respect authority. I would sit on the internet all day. Blame everything that is wrong on everyone else. Disagree with someone on the internet that would kick the shit out of me in real life? Not a problem. Just constantly call him a twat from behind my keyboard. I am a big man sitting here. I can insult who I want in safety.

And there is your problem. Idiots can say what they want mainly with immunity. Some just want to be noticed. They just want ti be controversial. They want their internet points. The most valuable asset to a lot of people.

How do I know this you may ask. I have met people who seem sound on the internet. They are sound in real life. I have met up with argumentative people on the net. They are sound in real life. This happens because I don't hide who I am. Many have seen pictures of me. And I stand out a little because of my size. So they come up to me at games. Have a beer. Have a laugh. It is as though you have known each other for years.

Then everyone gets behind their keyboards again

 

[Astute]

I think Timmy Mallet would have done a really shit job dealing with this. That also has no relevance because he also hasn't been in the position to do anything about it.

I don't agree. I think he is the closest to Boris than anyone else.

 

[Astute]

Have a goose at this. Lab created. Was never from some prick chowing down on bat soup

Reminds me of a joke.

Why are China useless at cricket?

They have eaten all the bats.

 

[Astute]

Boris Johnson 'owes his life to NHS staff'

So is the NHS worth the proper investment it has been lacking for a lot of years now?

And a chance for Starmer to stamp his authority on the situation and show us what he is capable of.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

'She loved her job': The NHS staff who've died

Surprised how many say, ‘died at home’

Wonder if that’s replicated in society more widely?

 

[Flying Fokker]

I don't agree. I think he is the closest to Boris than anyone else.

He has a talent for Art though

 

[Astute]

He has a talent for Art though

Mallet?

 

[Astute]

'She loved her job': The NHS staff who've died

Surprised how many say, ‘died at home’

Wonder if that’s replicated in society more widely?

So sad. Brings reality to what is just a number. People dying because they did a job that would make a difference. They cared about people but never got the same back.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

According to Finish scientists 3D modelling there’s a lot of merit in the general public wearing masks in public not to stop yourself catching it as such but to stop anyone who might have it spreading it. 3D simulation shows how a single cough can spread coronavirus through a grocery store

Our scientists and medical practitioners really need to provide clarity on this subject as many have previously claimed that masks will do little to help protect someone from contracting the virus. The most prominent of these being Chris Whitty, who actually went one step further and urged people not to wear them.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Gallery paintings from my Camino — Mallett ART

 

[clint van damme]

Gallery paintings from my Camino — Mallett ART

I know nothing about art but they look decent to me.

 

[shmmeee]

Our scientists and medical practitioners really need to provide clarity on this subject as many have previously claimed that masks will do little to help protect someone from contracting the virus. The most prominent of these being Chris Whitty, who actually went one step further and urged people not to wear them.

You’ve got to ask, if they don’t why do medical staff wear them, why do countries that have had epidemics wear them and why are Italy handing them out?

Even if just stopping you touching your face and as a reminder of the situation to everyone the must have some effect.

 

[PVA]

Remember when our approach was to do the complete opposite to the rest of the world and many people were defending the government saying they were doing the right thing, just because they support the Tories?

If the situation wasn't so dire the replies to this tweet would be funny.




This one probably my favourite:




Or this one




Imagine defending herd immunity and thousands of people dying unnecessarily just because you feel the need to defend your 'team ' to the hilt

 

[Astute]

You’ve got to ask, if they don’t why do medical staff wear them, why do countries that have had epidemics wear them and why are Italy handing them out?

Even if just stopping you touching your face and as a reminder of the situation to everyone the must have some effect.

But if the masks work why do they wear full face visors? I get my temperature taken before I am allowed on site at work each shift. They wear the full visors.

 

[Sick Boy]

But if the masks work why do they wear full face visors? I get my temperature taken before I am allowed on site at work each shift. They wear the full visors.

I think that they likely reduce the chances of infection but not eradicate it completely, even if it was just a 5% reduction, I would prefer to wear one, personally.
They are now mandatory here when going to the supermarket, so expect that we'll have to wear them for a while when we are eventually allowed back into the workplace.

 

[David O'Day]

I know nothing about art but they look decent to me.

Yeah they are really good

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[Astute]

And for community spirit......WTF

'Crazy' town relieves lockdown with mass mooing

 

[Astute]

I think that they likely reduce the chances of infection but not eradicate it completely, even if it was just a 5% reduction, I would prefer to wear one, personally.
They are now mandatory here when going to the supermarket, so expect that we'll have to wear them for a while when we are eventually allowed back into the workplace.

The only problem I have with them is some of those wearing them act as though they are invincible. They walk around the shops and get close to you when they shouldn't.

 

[Brylowes]

Why do some like yourself still try to deny this?

This is the problem with Labour mentality. You were not allowed to say anything about what you could see. But anyone who doesn't vote Labour because it is what they do could see it.

Corbyn. Lots of skeletons in the closet. No charisma. Never put a point across with conviction. Brexit? Lost a lot more votes than he gained by not wanting to say what he would do. Anti EU all his life. But said a few things about remaining. Should have been much more clear on the matter.

McDonnell. Lots of skeletons in the closet. Looked to be the puppet master. Long term close friend of Corbyn.

Abbott. Vilified for being thick. But I don't think anyone would say she isn't thick. Just mention the hard time she got. Ex fuckpiece of Corbyn.

Choosing people to help you should be putting the best people in place. Not thise who have been with you for over 30 years in whatever you have done.

On to policies. Free broadband for everyone. This included the rich. About 50 billion initial cost. Hundreds of millions to run each year. Billions more needed in investment.

Untold billions to be spent on nationalizing utilities and transport. Transport would be first. When I was against this I was called the usual names. Yeah let's spend lots of billions bringing back the train services. But when I said about just waiting until the contracts were over and nit pay thise untold billions out the penny dropped on most. More untold billions would have been wasted.

Labour had a chance? You don't honestly believe that do you?

The Tories were in turmoil. They ended up making an absolute clown the PM. Recipe for disaster. No decent policies. But he had one line.

We heard that most of us were supposed to be Remainers at the time of the last election. Yet get Brexit done won the election campaign for the Tories. Why was this?

You assume to much, I’m 51 and the last five years is the first time in my life we’ve had a Labour
Leadership worthy of the name, it was a real opportunity for the Country to steer away from the
Catastrophic Neo-Liberal path it’s been following for 40 years.
You’re opinions on Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott suggests you swallowed hook line and sinker
the media spun lies ‘and jumped on board the witch hunt orchestrated against them ‘by not only
The opposition ‘but also from high ranking members of their own party.
Starmer ‘don’t make me laugh ‘this Country needs radical change from top to bottom, all he’s
Going to provide is a different choice of government with exactly the same outcome.

 

[clint van damme]

You assume to much, I’m 51 and the last five years is the first time in my life we’ve had a Labour
Leadership worthy of the name, it was a real opportunity for the Country to steer away from the
Catastrophic Neo-Liberal path it’s been following for 40 years.
You’re opinions on Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott suggests you swallowed hook line and sinker
the media spun lies ‘and jumped on board the witch hunt orchestrated against them ‘by not only
The opposition ‘but also from high ranking members of their own party.
Starmer ‘don’t make me laugh ‘this Country needs radical change from top to bottom, all he’s
Going to provide is a different choice of government with exactly the same outcome.

Starmer can fuck off after this:

Labour antisemitism investigation will not be sent to equality commission

 

[clint van damme]

Remember when our approach was to do the complete opposite to the rest of the world and many people were defending the government saying they were doing the right thing, just because they support the Tories?

If the situation wasn't so dire the replies to this tweet would be funny.




This one probably my favourite:




Or this one



Imagine defending herd immunity and thousands of people dying unnecessarily just because you feel the need to defend your 'team ' to the hilt

Imagine referring back to the Empire as evidence we know how to deal with a pandemic in the 21st century. Incredible.

 

[Astute]

You assume to much, I’m 51 and the last five years is the first time in my life we’ve had a Labour
Leadership worthy of the name, it was a real opportunity for the Country to steer away from the
Catastrophic Neo-Liberal path it’s been following for 40 years.
You’re opinions on Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott suggests you swallowed hook line and sinker
the media spun lies ‘and jumped on board the witch hunt orchestrated against them ‘by not only
The opposition ‘but also from high ranking members of their own party.
Starmer ‘don’t make me laugh ‘this Country needs radical change from top to bottom, all he’s
Going to provide is a different choice of government with exactly the same outcome.

I assume? You are the one assuming not me.

You asked the questions. I answered them for you. You don't like the answers.

So come on then. Why did Labour have such a catastrophic GE when they were up against the Tories who didn't have policies and had Boris as leader? Why ask questions when you know you won't like honest opinions back?