Grendel
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Quality if you are the opposition
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Quality if you are the opposition
fernandopartridge
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All the best to your sister. When my sister was in Cov CCU we had to wear gowns, gloves and a mask to visit her, it was hit and miss what size stuff they had though
I wonder if the penny dropped with Dom when he asked that question!
clint van damme
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So a point scoring excersise rather than any genuine concern for the victims?
Grendel
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You are ignoring me David and I don’t have to explain anything it’s why you useless bunch of losers will well always lose when you give people like Shah any airtime at all. She has tweeted she’s on the front bench. I’m pleased it’s great news
skybluetony176
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Grendel
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I’ve criticised her on several occasions. She’s just a nightmare. She’s clearly an anti Semite - she admitted her language was and anyone who allows her to brag she’s now on the front bench I have no sympathy
Sick Boy
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Come on, obviously the spaffing comment was just gallows humour.
fernandopartridge
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Interesting thread:
Sick Boy
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Have seen this reported over the last few days, very depressing.
skybluetony176
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Saying it’s not worth the cost is one thing but to use the phrase spunking it up the wall to describe the cost of investigating child sex abuse claims. Grendull must be appalled.
Johnson said it so presumably he finds it absolutely hilarious, classic gallows humour.
clint van damme
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Apparently there's been 92 care home out breaks in the last 24 hours but they won't neccessarily get classed as corona virus.
Viruses ripping through care homes happens annually but nowhere near on that scale so you've got to assume it's corona.
Ring Of Steel
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Ring Of Steel
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care homes are the biggest issue here, it’s horrible- it literally wipes out the whole place. They’re included in the deaths here (I think).
Grendel
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Yep Tories win again and labours claims they want to build bridges with the Jewish community are expunged instantly
fernandopartridge
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It's well known that the 11k current mortality rate only includes those dying in hospital. I reckon the real rate is 15k+
Ring Of Steel
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It’s already been very painfully established today that you have a serious truthfulness & credibility problem, I’ll go elsewhere for these kinds of opinions- thanks all the same.
Grendel
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So you think the announcement by Naz Shah - defended vehemently by the known ant Semite Ken livingstone - that she is on the front bench in a party which is sweeping a broom through the old past is a benefit to labour and a hammer blow to the Tories?
As for credibility haven’t you as well as having 3 jobs in the last 3 months also - amongst other things - said you’ve renounced uk citizenship due to England’s appalling history on racism - yet are backing Naz Shah
Yes it’s making perfect sense
Ian1779
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I’m not looking for a conspiracy - it was merely something that kept bugging me so I thought I’d float the idea, see what other people thought... on a discussion forum.
Ian1779
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I can understand why... am I therefore right in assuming that you would equally never vote Conservative seeing as their entire party have endorsed a rampantly anti-semitic leader in Orban, and equally never ever vote for a party that was complicit in the covering up of the heinous paedophilic acts of a certain Jimmy Saville...
For balance and all that....
Ring Of Steel
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I have no idea who woman is, but fuck me how anyone on the ‘right’ side of things can take any kind of moral high ground when it comes to endorsing pretty nasty things, it’s pretty staggering. I can only assume that they get so sick and tired of the distasteful things they do & say being brought up that the second they see a chance for some tit-for-tat “yeah but look at him/her!” type shenanigans that they jump all over it.
Sick Boy
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Ian1779
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I think missed is a bit generous - turned down, ignored, thought it was beneath them is probably more accurate a description.
fernandopartridge
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Wurzel missed the Evening Standard cartoon of Ed Miliband the other day as well, that's the ES which is edited by one Gideon Osborne
shmmeee
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Mate. I’ve liked all kinds of tweets by accident or liked stuff I haven’t read properly. It’s social media not a court case. I wouldn’t take it for either side based off one incident alone. I said the same when some Tory councillor tweeted something silly. It happens. To think she seriously hates rape victims or whatever is just ridiculous.
As I say, far more concerning are her interactions with antisemitism IMO.
Edit: I’d also agree the left has been overly squeamish in tackling issues in Muslim communities. I just don’t think this is a smoking gun on that.
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Ring Of Steel
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Taking back control, apparently no matter what the death count.
shmmeee
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What are we counting in this rate? Covid as main cause? Covid positive when dead? Deaths that wouldn’t have occurred if no Covid?
The latter is going to be huge. Saw a graphic posted by a doctor showing secondary impacts on those that have had care cut or routine surgeries etc delayed that will die earlier, those that die because of overstretched health care, those whose healths deteriorated due to isolation or unemployment, the non Covid deaths outweighed the Covid deaths. We could be looking at double or triple the final figures once all is said and done. We’ll definitely blow past the 20k target on Covid deaths alone looking at our current figures and curve.
Astute
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Why dies anybody bother saying anything on here unless they are looking for an argument?
It is a well proven fact that everyone gets affected by this virus in a different way. About the only fact we do have to hand.
Why didn't you quote the part where I asked if the NHS staff that treated him were in on the conspiracy? Yes. Because it doesn't go with the point you are trying to put across.
Astute
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The majority of posts on this thread are all about point scoring.
David O'Day
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Ah the cartoon that drew a jewish man with a stereotypical antisemitic hooked nose.
He's labour though so the right don't care about antisemitic abuse towards him
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Astute
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And all I did was reply to you....on a discussion forum. Not one proper reply but yet more allegations made.
fernandopartridge
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Anything in hospital is anything with covid on the death certificate AFAIK. A death cert has causes 1a, 1b and 1c so it needs to be mentioned as one of those. In some countries I believe they're counting any deaths that include pneumonia on the cert too.
fernandopartridge
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It isn't a "well proven fact" that everyone gets affected in a different way, it's anecdotal even if true. The WHO and UK Gov both advise that the main symptoms are:
fever
tiredness
dry cough
chiefdave
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Of course it affects people different but that doesn't make it a valid comparison between someone who had no symptoms to the point they weren't even aware they had it and someone who was in ICU for three days in a life threatening condition. Johnson himself said "it could have gone either way".
A week ago if anyone suggested the possibility that the severity of Johnson's condition might be being exaggerated to avoid scrutiny of his performance personally and the government as a whole they were called every name imaginable. Now a week later if anyone questions why he's been released from hospital only 48 hours after leaving ICU and recording video messages like nothing has happened its claimed Johnson was only in as a precautionary measure. Not hard to see why some people are asking questions.