David O'Day
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Raab is a tad shite ain't he.
Keanu Reeves is more convincing
Keanu Reeves is more convincing
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Wyken Sky Blue
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Everytime I watch this press conference, the media waste questions
The BBC just asked one to Raab as to when are we likely to expect the lockdown measures to be reduced.
Why ask when no one knows an accurate date? There's not point getting people's hopes up.
Three weeks at a time as described at the start of the lockdown.
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The BBC just asked one to Raab as to when are we likely to expect the lockdown measures to be reduced.
Why ask when no one knows an accurate date? There's not point getting people's hopes up.
Three weeks at a time as described at the start of the lockdown.
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Johnnythespider
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Kuenssberg is beyond useless
clint van damme
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Not to the Tories she's not!
Astute
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Look at what I said again.
Those that can be proven without a doubt should at least be suspended. This will include those where you can see the comments.
The others I mentioned will be those where you can't see any evidence. That can't be those where you can see the conversations you have brought up again.
Nick
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Piers morgan is just trying to stir up as much anger as he can.
Anyone see Nahga with John Ashton this morning?
David O'Day
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She was talking nonsense as her brief is above her.
Hancocks comments about Neil Ferguson were those of a petulant child.
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Tbf the whole pack have been pushing this for close to a week now.
Utter waste of time .
Very hard to understand the reasoning.
Which was what,?
David O'Day
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John Ashton does gave am axe to grind over his sacking so I'd take what he says with a pinch of salt
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David O'Day
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His he advises the government he's not o .the government wibbling
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It’s the same every day. Pushing for answers that the government don’t know/won’t give at present and/or repeating questions already asked by others (in different words).
I think the daily press briefings are worth having (a useful update for those that want it) but if anyone’s looking for anything groundbreaking on a daily basis they’re going to be disappointed. The monotonous/repetitive messaging might be dull but on the face of it, looking at the numbers following the measures, it does appear to have been successful to date
Liquid Gold
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Stealing all the light from the other plants?
shmmeee
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We’ve only got the person who made the reports word they’re unedited TBF, there are already people claiming they’ve been edited, taken out of context, or plain made up.
And the law isn’t cut and dried about accessing private data just because you found it on a work machine. If the person can prove an expectation of privacy then it’s still protected.
This whole thing is going to be a massive legal mess which I suspect Starmer as a former lawyer is well aware of and is why he’s not storming around sacking everyone mentioned and their spouse as some have been calling for. There’s going to be GDPR fines, libel cases brought, it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions.
I expect the staffers that remain will leave as their position is untenable but I can’t see him wanting to set a precedent around sacking people for private conversations. I’ve not seen the racism yet. Read an Ask Sarkar piece that claimed being mean about Abbott was racist but it didn’t back it up other than to say “she’s black so it’s racist”, I think there was something about Douglas Murray saying moderate Islam had questions to answer about terrorism, which again is borderline. The worst people like the guy ignoring AS emails have already gone. Much of the really bad behaviour was over three years ago.
As for non staffers, I’d expect Iain McNicol to not get a SC position and that’s about it.
The most frustrating thing is it’s just blown open all the factional crap again just as we were starting with a new leader. It’s clearly been leaked to get the membership riled up rather than actually achieve anything internally.
I say all of this and I still haven’t read the whole thing yet, just going off reports.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So I assume therefore you want ambulances, police and fire services to be removed from public funding and run solely on donations from the public and manned by volunteers like the RNLI, mountain rescue and air ambulance are?
clint van damme
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The shes black so it's racist comment could easily be supplanted with shes Jewish so it's antisemitic in certain incidents.
Look at the spurious evidence against Marc Wadsworth in the Ruth Smeeth incident yet he got expelled
The tit for tat has got a long way to go unless Starmer can.prove himself to be the shrewdess of operators and find a way to nip it in the bud.
I see some of the staffers Are trying to stop their branch of Unite sending out a solidarity letter to BAME MPs as it implies guilt. They may have a point but you know how that's going to play out.
Too many people want their pound of flesh now.
Like I say, Starmer is going to.need to do something very impressive to get a grip on all of this.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Is it wise to use a term associated to a Jewish Shakespearean character?
clint van damme
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When you don't know the character is Jewish I'm not sure you have a choice!
David O'Day
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Libel and Gdpr claims not going to happen. If you are using a work machine you have no expectation of privacy and your name is not a large breach if 1 at all.
They could try and sue individual users who then reposted the reports without their names redacted but that would be a stretch as well.
They were stupid enough to save WhatsApp chats about their employers on a work computer. Fuck em
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They could try and sue individual users who then reposted the reports without their names redacted but that would be a stretch as well.
They were stupid enough to save WhatsApp chats about their employers on a work computer. Fuck em
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David O'Day
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The tory on question time is really shit
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Ring Of Steel
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So these “care” badges Hancock is waving around... the government is charging £1.20 each for them, minimum order quantity 100..
Germany tested 1.3m people, we tried to flog some badges around hospitals- whoever it was that asked what why Germany have done so much better than us, that’s kind of a good illustration why
Germany tested 1.3m people, we tried to flog some badges around hospitals- whoever it was that asked what why Germany have done so much better than us, that’s kind of a good illustration why
shmmeee
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Yeah I totally agree about the Jewish thing.
It’s such a clusterfuck man. We’ve built this environment where mere accusations of racism are virtually impossible to disprove as it’s all down to “tropes” or “feelings of the oppressed” so all you can do is resign and apologise. Hand that weapon to a pair of factions constantly at each other throats and it’s mutually assured destruction. Meanwhile the public looks on in disbelief, or more accurately rolls their eyes and ignores us.
Reading more and there’s definitely some shit behaviour in there. He’s going to have to take action but in the middle of this you’ve got the ECHR investigation and not GDPR and libel cases you’re trying not to prejudice.
Honestly worried this could kill the party. If not because of members leaving then the financial impact.
The more you look into this the worse it gets. It’s not even a new scheme for this, it was launched in June 2019! The government have just basically publicised it. Absolute jokers.
Ring Of Steel
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I didn’t know that- makes it worse. You have to wonder whether they are having some kind of collective nervous breakdown or buckling under the pressure. What kind of mind thinks that doing that is what people want to hear and what they want done? You’d know more than me but it feels from a distance like the penny has finally dropped, and the voices saying “they’re doing a good job” are getting fewer and further between.
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westcountry_skyblue
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Dominic Raab will be the next PM of this country,
Mark my words just what we need
Mark my words just what we need
Ring Of Steel
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and is that serious or an attempt at a wind-up?
SkyBlueDom26
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Haha oh dear mate you’ve opened yourself up to all the lefties on here now
SkyBlueDom26
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shmmeee
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No way Raab wins the Tory leadership contest.
Ring Of Steel
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Or perhaps he's opened himself up to people who don't like cretins running the country no matter what political beliefs they have.
One minute you're a terrified child, next you're asking the same questions over & over again and not having a clue what anything means, the next you're a cute little mascot for anyone you perceive to be "on the right". Pick a persona and stick with it, and smarten up ffs
skybluetony176
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I don’t know. He has all the right qualities. None.
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chiefdave
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Guess someone has told Trump he doesn't have absolute power as he's had to go back on what he said earlier in the week and leave it up to the governor of each state.
The plan doesn't really contain anything of use. It basically says when cases start dropping things can gradually reopen.
Sky Blue Pete
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Brazil and USA dont deserve what they are about to experience. Trump still thinks acting tough and being decisive and arrogant are marks of leadership and he’s wrong.