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It was more the Europe bit I was arguing about.
Blair? Arguably most toxic among Labour voters(!) Question is, which outweighs what...
It was more the Europe bit I was arguing about.I really don't see how an association with Blair can help him.
The name has too much baggage. Look how Johnson distanced himself from Thatcher when he thought it was prudent to do so, subtly so he could always go back, but for now distanced himself all the same.
testing?Total Cases are down though which is a good sign
Tell that to the people that struggle to fundraise enough to keep them afloat (pun unintended). Wouldn't stop them getting extra donations in as well. You make them part of the emergency infrastructure so people don't question it. Fire, police, ambulances etc also see drastic funding cuts during austerity but should they become charity funded instead? Or is it just for years of having them there we've come to expect them to be paid for.
Just about everything seems to be taken out of context these days.There's a theory doing the rounds, although doesn't seem to be much in the way of evidence to back it up, that the reason Starmer is so reluctant to say who is backing him is down to their links to Blair. More than likley rubbish but when that mindset exists it would probably be a good idea if he distanced himself from Blair.
Think this has made him look weak. Nobody suspended while an investigation is carried out and he seems as concerned about the source of the leak as its contents.
Was anybody on the Labour members call last night? Looking on social media it seems he said something about not being critical of the government which, when their making such a mess of the current situation, seems an odd stance to take. Would like to know exactly what he said though if anyone had access to it. Could very well be something that's been taken out of context.
Apparently. Some really obscure ones too IIRC. Hence the but Boris speaks loads of languages too baseless PR.Doesn't Rory Stewart speak loads of languages?
Maybe it’s the Bank Holiday info coming through... let’s hope the trend over the week will settle off.
Wasn’t this just a speculative story in the express as they tried to promote the he’s more intelligent than Rory Stewart line? I remember reading something about it during the leadership contest and I’m sure it’s just speculative based on his colourful ancestry. I think English, French (to Eaton level) plus a Flemish dialect of French as he briefly lived there is the length of it.
It was more the Europe bit I was arguing about.
Blair? Arguably most toxic among Labour voters(!) Question is, which outweighs what...
Again languages aren’t really intelligence. We’re taking about the ability that world leaders need to ingest and synthesise complex technical information. Application of knowledge, that’s what intelligence is. Rote learning doesn’t require any intelligence, just repetition.
Merkel clearly understands the science behind the pandemic, Johnson and Trump clearly don’t.
I’m sure he makes really nice cardboard buses too, it’s just not really relevant for being an effective world leader.
Blair, Obama, Merkel, these are people who whether you agree with their politics or not clearly have an understanding of the situation.
I just want that standard of person please. Starmer might be it, haven’t seen enough to judge and he has actually done a real high level job before, just a shame he’s got the charisma of a wet blanket so wouldn’t win an election these days.
What was I on about again?
I think you apply the party rules consistently. Those who in the report have racist, misogynistic or bullying attributed should be suspended pending investigation as has happened to others in the past, most recently Trevor Phillips and Faisal Shoukat.So who and how many should be suspended without looking at any evidence? Where has the information been coming from? Should we believe what is written on social media?
Who has said anything is acceptable?I think you apply the party rules consistently. Those who in the report have racist, misogynistic or bullying attributed should be suspended pending investigation as has happened to others in the past, most recently Trevor Phillips and Faisal Shoukat.
How many times in recent years did we hear uproar in the media when a years old tweet or private message was made public? Not really seeing why it is acceptable for more leniency to be shown now because there's a new leader.
Who has said anything is acceptable?
If something can be seen as guilty without a doubt as in racist remarks then yes at least suspend them. But alleged discrepancies are a different matter. So much bullshit going around. Best way of getting rid of someone you don't like is make an allegation.
Don't think its a great idea for government advisers to be saying that. Already got people not paying attention to the guidelines, saying they might not be doing any good is just going to undermine efforts to get everyone to do as they are told.BBC said:Dominic Raab says there have been indications that social distancing measures in place are showing success.
But government advisers say the evidence is "mixed and inconsistent", and in some settings infections are increasing.
Kuenssberg is beyond uselessEverytime I watch this press conference, the media waste questions
The BBC just asked one to Raab as to when are we likely to expect the lockdown measures to be reduced.
Why ask when no one knows an accurate date? There's not point getting people's hopes up.
Three weeks at a time as described at the start of the lockdown.
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Kuenssberg is beyond useless
Look at what I said again.These aren’t allegations - these come from actual conversations because one of the idiots downloaded their entire WhatsApp group conversations onto their work computer which was the property of the Labour Party.
Yeah but it's in health and social care settingsDon't think its a great idea for government advisers to be saying that. Already got people not paying attention to the guidelines, saying they might not be doing any good is just going to undermine efforts to get everyone to do as they are told.
Piers morgan is just trying to stir up as much anger as he can.I've ended up in a strange parallel world where Piers Morgan is the voice of reason. Nadine Dorries tweeted that full lockdown would last until a vaccine is found. Morgan picked up on it tweeting "Health minister says UK will be in ‘full lockdown’ until there is COVID-19 vaccine - which experts say will be at least 18 months. Astonishing break from other Govt statements". She's now outright denying she said it.
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Anyone see Nahga with John Ashton this morning?Not to the Tories she's not!
She was talking nonsense as her brief is above her.Piers morgan is just trying to stir up as much anger as he can.
Tbf the whole pack have been pushing this for close to a week now.Kuenssberg is beyond useless
Which was what,?She was talking nonsense as her brief is above her.
Hancocks comments about Neil Ferguson were those of a petulant child.
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John Ashton does gave am axe to grind over his sacking so I'd take what he says with a pinch of saltAnyone see Nahga with John Ashton this morning?
His he advises the government he's not o .the government wibblingWhich was what,?
Everytime I watch this press conference, the media waste questions
The BBC just asked one to Raab as to when are we likely to expect the lockdown measures to be reduced.
Why ask when no one knows an accurate date? There's not point getting people's hopes up.
Three weeks at a time as described at the start of the lockdown.
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Stealing all the light from the other plants?Tory plants...
These aren’t allegations - these come from actual conversations because one of the idiots downloaded their entire WhatsApp group conversations onto their work computer which was the property of the Labour Party.
Have you not noticed the cuts to Police Numbers, closure of fire stations, reduction in volunteer firefighters, ambulance station closures? Where have you been for the past 10 years?? If, god forbid, the services you mentioned were added to the the Emergency services infrastructure, do you really think they'd be immune to cutbacks?
Keep them away from the grubby hands of the treasury and political interference.
We’ve only got the person who made the reports word they’re unedited TBF, there are already people claiming they’ve been edited, taken out of context, or plain made up.
And the law isn’t cut and dried about accessing private data just because you found it on a work machine. If the person can prove an expectation of privacy then it’s still protected.
This whole thing is going to be a massive legal mess which I suspect Starmer as a former lawyer is well aware of and is why he’s not storming around sacking everyone mentioned and their spouse as some have been calling for. There’s going to be GDPR fines, libel cases brought, it’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportions.
I expect the staffers that remain will leave as their position is untenable but I can’t see him wanting to set a precedent around sacking people for private conversations. I’ve not seen the racism yet. Read an Ask Sarkar piece that claimed being mean about Abbott was racist but it didn’t back it up other than to say “she’s black so it’s racist”, I think there was something about Douglas Murray saying moderate Islam had questions to answer about terrorism, which again is borderline. The worst people like the guy ignoring AS emails have already gone. Much of the really bad behaviour was over three years ago.
As for non staffers, I’d expect Iain McNicol to not get a SC position and that’s about it.
The most frustrating thing is it’s just blown open all the factional crap again just as we were starting with a new leader. It’s clearly been leaked to get the membership riled up rather than actually achieve anything internally.
I say all of this and I still haven’t read the whole thing yet, just going off reports.
Too many people want their pound of flesh now..
Is it wise to use a term associated to a Jewish Shakespearean character?
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