Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

bezzer

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So I assume therefore you want ambulances, police and fire services to be removed from public funding and run solely on donations from the public and manned by volunteers like the RNLI, mountain rescue and air ambulance are?

Have you been drinking? Your reply make no sense at all.

I want the blue light services to be fully funded, unlike they are now.

And I'm more than happy to let the RNLI to remain as a very successful charity.

I hope that clears things up for you :emoji_thumbsup:
 

djr8369

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I totally disagree. We've tried the civil discourse under Corbyn it doesn't work.
We also seen Piers Morgan reach new levels of popularity since launching his daily attacks on the government. People want them held to account, even Michael Gove said they should be scrutinised.

Maybe you're right and some harsh criticism will cut through but it's objectively correct that Starmer has been criticised for what he has said. I assume he is trying to take the middle ground, whether or not that will be wise long term I do not know. I agree with you regarding civil discourse not working, at least for Corbyn, but then it was too easy to attack Corbyn and he wasn't good enough at PMQ's to say that is a strategy that cannot work for somebody else.
 

The coventrian

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You’re not neutral though, you’ve admitted you’re anti-Labour. I just pointed out that if you’re honest you can’t explain why. “Anti working class” is clearly bollocks. At best you mean “pro immigrant”.

Come on, prove me wrong. What Labour policies are anti working class and what Tory ones aren’t?

If you’ve paid any attention at all to my ranting about Labour you’ll know the last thing I want is to carry on as we are, but that doesn’t mean not calling our pure bollocks when I see it.

I don’t give a fuck who you vote for mate, but I’ll keep calling it how I see it no matter how many of you snowflakes start crying.

Edit: hang the fuck on. You keep boasting about how minted you are and what a massive house you live in. Why do you give a fuck about the working class? You’re clearly not one of them.
How can you say I'm not working class whilst sitting in your uni educated bubble.
I'm not minted. Yes I'm proud of what I've got after leaving school with not one qualification. You just carry on sneering with your middle class uni education and we'll just keep voting the other way. And where did I say I'm anti labour? Anti leftie labour yes. I've voted labour in the past.
 

clint van damme

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tbf, Piers Corbyn was saying that weeks ago!

(I have no idea what his politics are!)

is that how it works when you're one of the richest men on the planet?
You spend a large chunk of your personal wealth setting up a foundation to fight dangerous, contagious diseases, then one day you get bored so say, you know what, i'm not going to fight contagion anymore, I'm gong to start a global pandemic!
 
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How can you say I'm not working class whilst sitting in your uni educated bubble.
I'm not minted. Yes I'm proud of what I've got after leaving school with not one qualification. You just carry on sneering with your middle class uni education and we'll just keep voting the other way.
Why can't you be working class and university educated?
 
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is that how it works when you're one of the richest men on the planet?
You spend a large chunk of your personal wealth setting up a foundation to fight dangerous, contagious diseases, then one day you get bored so say, you know what, i'm not going to fight contagion anymore, I'm gong to start a global pandemic!
You're clearly not watching the right documentaries. Check out the stuff by James Bond, he exposes all kinds of things like this.
 
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I'm going to have to now, I've a feeling I'll regret it.
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clint van damme

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How can you say I'm not working class whilst sitting in your uni educated bubble.
I'm not minted. Yes I'm proud of what I've got after leaving school with not one qualification. You just carry on sneering with your middle class uni education and we'll just keep voting the other way. And where did I say I'm anti labour? Anti leftie labour yes. I've voted labour in the past.

so as a protest against the bubble of the middle class, university educated you're going to vote for those in the bubble of fabulous wealth, private school, elite university education?
 

The coventrian

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If you think I’m the problem with Labour then you’re even thicker than I thought. Loving Brexit and wanting to drown migrants doesn’t make you working class - it makes you an arsehole.
Is that the best you've got? A,I never voted Brexit,B,I never said about drowning migrants. I basically said what a lot of people think when they see them illegally trying to enter the country which was just shoot the fucking boat. Wtf do you know about working class? Fuck all. Your party is a fucking joke cos it's been hijacked by divs like you.
 

skybluetony176

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tbf, Piers Corbyn was saying that weeks ago!

(I have no idea what his politics are!)
The gist of it from what I can see is he’s been publicly critical of Trumps handling of the Coronavirus which has made him a target, then clearly the brains of the bunch has found on old speech that Gates did after swine flu saying that the biggest threat to the world isn’t all out nuclear war but a pandemic with more serious effects than swine flu. Which clearly means that Bill Gates had Covid 19 made in a lab and released it deliberately so he can take over the health care system globally to become a billionaire. Other than that Gates believes in a plant based diet to save the environment so clearly he’s also a communist, gay and possibly Chinese and if not he should be. He’d probably rather live in Italy too.
 

shmmeee

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Sorry but I didn't have a middle class uni education like you

Sorry mate you can’t play the “my council tax is more than your rent” card and the “I’m just a lowly working class person not like you middle class people” card at the same time.

Like it or not you’re clearly solidly middle class now.
 

The coventrian

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so as a protest against the bubble of the middle class, university educated you're going to vote for those in the bubble of fabulous wealth, private school, elite university education?
What other alternative is there. We dont want a left wing labour government in charge. The majority of the country dont. Only those who are left wing and staunch labour cant see the problem.
 

The coventrian

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Sorry mate you can’t play the “my council tax is more than your rent” card and the “I’m just a lowly working class person not like you middle class people” card at the same time.

Like it or not you’re clearly solidly middle class now.
Oh well the same as the majority of labour supporters then.
 

shmmeee

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What other alternative is there. We dont want a left wing labour government in charge. The majority of the country dont. Only those who are left wing and staunch labour cant see the problem.

This is going to blow your mind:

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Even the most right wing voters in this country are centre left. And only getting more so.
 

Ian1779

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Is that the best you've got? A,I never voted Brexit,B,I never said about drowning migrants. I basically said what a lot of people think when they see them illegally trying to enter the country which was just shoot the fucking boat. Wtf do you know about working class? Fuck all. Your party is a fucking joke cos it's been hijacked by divs like you.

Mate I come from a working class background... grew up on a shitty council estate, lived from week to week (sometimes meal to meal as I found out when I got older) - I chose to get myself some qualifications so that I could follow the career path I wanted to.
I work in an inner city school, with kids that come from the same deprived and working class background. I’m trying to give back to where I came from, to give kids the options to break the cycle if that’s what they want.

I choose Labour because they have policies that can level the playing field. If you actually bothered to spend more than 5 seconds scrutinising some of their ideas to help the working class you’d understand that, but you’d rather virtue signal about a load of bollocks you picked up from Facebook and the Sun which shows you up for the knob you are.

Name just one policy aimed at increasing the minimum wage, properly funding the NHS/Education/Welfare that is anti-working class??

Just one....
 

chiefdave

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Labour will never have an election win under there current guise. The working class are not interested in the left wing. The working class have deserted labour in there droves. I guess if your left wing and working class labour are great at the moment,but not for the majority of us in this country. I'm.a floating voter. I have no affiliation to any party. I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag. Labour have forgotten who they're supposed to represent. I work in manufacturing,arent labour supposed to be the party for the likes of me? The party for the people? Nobody I work with votes labour. I'd vote labour again in the future but not at the moment. The way the labour party is represented on here is how the floating voter sees them. Frothing left wingers who scream and shout nazi,racist,bigot at you if you disagree with them or dare raise a genuine question about something. This is why floating voters like me are kind of forced to vote Tory. I'm not getting pulled into a discussion about all this by the labour party 'enthusiasts' on here as you just cant seem to reason with them. They seem to be more into the labour party than they are the city. Like I've said,labour need to win back us,the working class neutral types we dont feel like you represent us anymore,no the Tories dont represent the working class but we know what the Tories are about,looking after the Tories but at least they dont pretend to represent the working class like labour do. Que the usual frothing idiots.
Out of interest what Labour polices in particular do you object to and what Conservative polices encouraged you to vote for them?
 

Ian1779

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What other alternative is there. We dont want a left wing labour government in charge. The majority of the country dont. Only those who are left wing and staunch labour cant see the problem.
You don’t want left-wing but can’t even define it....
 

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