Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (9 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

But it’s OK because we can’t have the lefties in charge.

that side of it is beyond my knowledge, but fuck me who in their right mind would vote for these people? If you did vote for them then you got mugged, you’ve been made to look pretty stupid. They can’t even keep their own citizens alive.

 

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[Astute]

He said he would vote for Starmer.
From what I can make out Corbyns free broadband plan was a deal breaker!

Not what I said.

I said give him a chance. Wait to see what he does when he gets a proper chance. If he is useless then look to replace him although I don't know who with.

Whatever happens he can't be worse than Corbyn........

 

[Astute]

Either way - still not a single actual reason as to why he hates lefties and their policy. And you wonder why this country is in the shit it’s in?

I don't wonder why. But many don't like the truth.

Hard left is wanted by many. Hard left took over the Labour party. You won't get anywhere being hard left. It gives the Tories the freedom to do as they wish.

So the same question that nobody likes to answer. When was the last left leaning Labour government?

 

[Astute]

But it’s OK because we can’t have the lefties in charge.

You can have the lefties in charge. But it won't win a GE.

 

[Ian1779]

I don't wonder why. But many don't like the truth.

Hard left is wanted by many. Hard left took over the Labour party. You won't get anywhere being hard left. It gives the Tories the freedom to do as they wish.

So the same question that nobody likes to answer. When was the last left leaning Labour government?

It wasn’t hard left... it’s barely left of centre when you look at lots of other countries. Our country has been dragged so far right that anything that involves sharing is seen as communism.

The thing is you know that as well... so tell me why the LD’s didn’t walk the election with their centre ground?

 

[clint van damme]

Or perhaps under Tories he’s someone whose demonstrated hard work is rewarded and his managed to improve his commercial wealth and lifestyle

I assume a vote for labour is a vote for personal wealth improvement and not a race to the bottom?

Would you want 16 year old working class school leavers to aspire to live in half million property and a very comfortable life style. A vote for labour has to offer that opportunity doesn’t it?

Then why would he be happy to support a system that sees him pay his fair share in taxes but is skewed to allow individuals and corporation's pay fuck all and squirrel everything away off shore

Or perhaps under Tories he’s someone whose demonstrated hard work is rewarded and his managed to improve his commercial wealth and lifestyle

I assume a vote for labour is a vote for personal wealth improvement and not a race to the bottom?

Would you want 16 year old working class school leavers to aspire to live in half million property and a very comfortable life style. A vote for labour has to offer that opportunity doesn’t it?

So why vote for a party which has overseen the longest period of wage stagnation for generations while simultaneously skewing the tax system in favour of the ultra wealthy?

That's not rewarding the hard graft of the working class.

 

[Astute]

It wasn’t hard left... it’s barely left of centre when you look at lots of other countries. Our country has been dragged so far right that anything that involves sharing is seen as communism.

The thing is you know that as well... so tell me why the LD’s didn’t walk the election with their centre ground?

Have you forgotten that they jumped into bed with the Tories already?

So being what the UK considers to be hard left isn't a problem to voters because of countries like who?

 

[Astute]

Then why would he be happy to support a system that sees him pay his fair share in taxes but is skewed to allow individuals and corporation's pay fuck all and squirrel everything away off shore


So why vote for a party which has overseen the longest period of wage stagnation for generations while simultaneously skewing the tax system in favour of the ultra wealthy?

That's not rewarding the hard graft of the working class.

Just shows how crap the opposition parties were.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Who'd want to be a medic when the gov sticks its fingers up at you like this:

Well that’s illegal

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Why no French figures??

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

New positives in Italy: 355 - very good because out of 65,000 tests done in last 24 hours
Deaths: 575
Recovered:2563
Big falls of those in intensive care

Great news mate, hopefully it continues next week

 

[Ian1779]

Have you forgotten that they jumped into bed with the Tories already?

So being what the UK considers to be hard left isn't a problem to voters because of countries like who?

The media span it as hard left - Labour failed to challenge that narrative so it became fact... it was nothing of the sort.

 

[Astute]

The media span it as hard left - Labour failed to challenge that narrative so it became fact... it was nothing of the sort.

OK.

People know what they are willing to vote for. They don't wait to be told who is left and who is right.

As I keep saying people are quick to say they are willing to pay more tax. But in real life many want tax cuts. Others are scared of spending going out of control.

This isn't left or right. It is reality.

 

[Ian1779]

OK.

People know what they are willing to vote for. They don't wait to be told who is left and who is right.

As I keep saying people are quick to say they are willing to pay more tax. But in real life many want tax cuts. Others are scared of spending going out of control.

This isn't left or right. It is reality.

So not hard left then... thanks for agreeing.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Or perhaps under Tories he’s someone whose demonstrated hard work is rewarded and his managed to improve his commercial wealth and lifestyle

I assume a vote for labour is a vote for personal wealth improvement and not a race to the bottom?

Would you want 16 year old working class school leavers to aspire to live in half million property and a very comfortable life style. A vote for labour has to offer that opportunity doesn’t it?

Hard work is 'rewarded' with a pittance compared to what the wealthy get - it's just about making sure they don't get to see the inequality. Do you think bankers etc work harder than someone working twelve hour shifts/two jobs/every hour god sends on building their business for a 'comfortable' lifestyle?

How many young people now own a house at all? It can offer the aspiration all it likes, but fact is less and less people are even getting on the ladder because all the housing stock was sold off and is increasingly in the hands of wealthy people renting it to them for a tidy profit and then getting the benefit of the property price increases as demand increasingly outstrips supply. And it's only getting worse.

Perhaps you really ought to get off the fixation that wealth is the be all and end all. Would you accept a small increase in pay for someone to fill your lungs with toxic fumes?Cos apparently that's all that matters. I'll pay you a million quid to live in an airtight box without food and water. If you want I'll give you air, food and water but as I'm in control of the supply I'll be setting the prices.

 

[Grendel]

The media span it as hard left - Labour failed to challenge that narrative so it became fact... it was nothing of the sort.

How did Corbyn attract over 40% of the vote in 2017?

 

[Ian1779]

How did Corbyn attract over 40% of the vote in 2017?

Because he was written off as ‘useless’ before 2017 - it was only after that they want after media in the acerbic manner they did.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Do you think the Coventrian - who is own admission a person who has little formal. Education and from traditional labour stock - someone labour need to appeal to going forward or are labour too superior to want his vote?

I don't know how you appeal to someone who has literally argued in favour of drowning immigrants

 

[Grendel]

Hard work is 'rewarded' with a pittance compared to what the wealthy get - it's just about making sure they don't get to see the inequality. Do you think bankers etc work harder than someone working twelve hour shifts/two jobs/every hour god sends on building their business for a 'comfortable' lifestyle?

How many young people now own a house at all? It can offer the aspiration all it likes, but fact is less and less people are even getting on the ladder because all the housing stock was sold off and is increasingly in the hands of wealthy people renting it to them for a tidy profit and then getting the benefit of the property price increases as demand increasingly outstrips supply. And it's only getting worse.

Perhaps you really ought to get off the fixation that wealth is the be all and end all. Would you accept a small increase in pay for someone to fill your lungs with toxic fumes?Cos apparently that's all that matters. I'll pay you a million quid to live in an airtight box without food and water. If you want I'll give you air, food and water but as I'm in control of the supply I'll be setting the prices.

My daughter earns £25 grand a year lives in a rented house drives a new car and has saved enough for a deposit on a house - get your chip off your shoulder

Oh and a friend of my younger daughter has just bought a house

 

[Grendel]

Because he was written off as ‘useless’ before 2017 - it was only after that they want after media in the acerbic manner they did.

Just listen how absurd you sound

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

My daughter earns £25 grand a year lives in a rented house drives a new car and has saved enough for a deposit on a house - get your chip off your shoulder

Oh and a friend of my younger daughter has just bought a house

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

 

[Astute]

So not hard left then... thanks for agreeing.

Agree with what?

You comparing us with other countries but won't state who they are?

Silly season is back.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Agree with what?

You comparing us with other countries but won't state who they are?

Silly season is back.

To be fair Astute we hear a lot about the centre but I don't see how the Tories have ever pitched policies that meet that description. Until Boris pledged to re-spend what his party took away for a decade that is

 

[Grendel]

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

We got one last year mostly thank to my missus who being Scottish wasn't charged through the nose for her education-or at all actually. Can you explain to me how the Conservatives are the party I should support, as a public sector worker?

 

[Astute]

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

Don't shout too loud. It all changed through the years of Labour leadership.

 

[Sick Boy]

Great news mate, hopefully it continues next week

Let’s hope so!
The daily briefings are now no more and the updates will only happen a couple of times a week now, I guess they’ll realise daily figures still though.
The capo of the Civil Protection is really excellent, as are the others who are involved with them.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

My daughter earns £25 grand a year lives in a rented house drives a new car and has saved enough for a deposit on a house - get your chip off your shoulder

Oh and a friend of my younger daughter has just bought a house

Is this the £500k house you talked of aspiring of? I somehow doubt it.

When you moving into the box anyway? I'm offering you the chance to become incredibly wealthy........

 

[Grendel]

We got one last year mostly thank to my missus who being Scottish wasn't charged through the nose for her education-or at all actually. Can you explain to me how the Conservatives are the party I should support, as a public sector worker?

Exactly my point people vote always for their own self interest - altruism is not a main consideration

 

[Grendel]

Is this the £500k house you talked of aspiring of? I somehow doubt it.

When you moving into the box anyway? I'm offering you the chance to become incredibly wealthy........

I’m taking about my daughter you are really losing the plot

 

[wingy]

Don't shout too loud. It all changed through the years of Labour leadership.

It did indeed .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don't shout too loud. It all changed through the years of Labour leadership.

Millennials have been let down by neoliberals and conservatives alike. The 2017 manifesto was the sweet spot

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

Doesn't she want good health, clean air or decent services and infrastructure?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Exactly my point people vote always for their own self interest - altruism is not a main consideration

I would be voting for them regardless brah

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I’m taking about my daughter you are really losing the plot

I was talking about your daughter - asking was this house you daughter's buying the £500k house you talked of young people aspiring too? And why are you turning down the chance to be rich? All you've got to do is go without poxy over-rated air, food and water but what are they compared to money?