Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Get him Katie Hopkins’ autograph maybe

I was thinking the Hungry Caterpillar

 

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[Johhny Blue]

I hear ya. Also St Patrick’s Day, that’s a great day to get out of dodge

I was born in Dublin and got my Canadian Citizenship on St. Paddy's day

 

[Ring Of Steel]

…...and the fact that I still have over a foot of snow outside

I’d bloody love that, it’s usually just grey here

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I was born in Dublin and got my Canadian Citizenship on St. Paddy's day

dublin huh, I knew there was something not right about you

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’d bloody love that, it’s usually just grey here

Will get across there eventually once this is all over and hopefully throw in NI as well

 

[David O'Day]

I didn't choose my education G, but I can choose what I do with it

Grenners is a modern day hyacinth bucket

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Grenners is a modern day hyacinth bucket

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He's the richest brah on here don't you know

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Will get across there eventually once this is all over and hopefully throw in NI as well

you would always be welcome if you’re ever anywhere near me.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

you would always be welcome if you’re ever anywhere near me.

I'd have interest in visiting the village one part of the family originates from (left in the 1850s). Ahead of that though the places that would satisfy the Irish history binge I went on last year

 

[skybluetony176]

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

Well, first time buyers reached a 30 year low and house building at a 25 year low under the conservatives so I’m not sure what you think the Tories have done, are doing or will do to help her.

Wasn’t Labour going to cut stamp duty to zero for first time buyers? Would that have not helped her?

Wasn’t Labour going to set up a Housing Dept to get builders and councils building again thus increasing the housing stock? Would that have not helped her?

 

[Ian1779]

Grenners is a modern day hyacinth bucket

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Only in his forum posts... he’s really Onslow in real life.

 

[Tommo1993]

Only in his forum posts... he’s really Onslow in real life.

Oh, nice!

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Oh, nice!

I just googled Onslow, that’s not a pretty picture

 

[fernandopartridge]

 

[Brylowes]

I posted on here a few days ago that our local hospital trust ‘through a friends of group,
Were appealing on FB for decorators overalls.

 

[Astute]

I just googled Onslow, that’s not a pretty picture

You didn't know who Onslow is? His house was filmed in the Aldermoor.

If you are bored of lockdown see if you can find it online somewhere. A proper comedy. You say the older generations had it better. We certainly did with comedy shows. And as a bonus you can pick out parts of Coventry as they drive about.

 

[Astute]

jesus- things, stuff, possessions, self absorption, me, mine, accumulating, consuming, working harder to buy more, take on more debt to buy more, taking lots of selfies on the way, then dying without really having done much apart from ‘perpetuating the cycle’. I don’t claim to have any answers for anyone (apart from maybe emigrate) but that sounds like a shit life to be aiming for.

But it is what many seem is the best to do.

New phone out? Better get a new one. Can't be seen with an old model. Rent a new car when an older one is just about as reliable. Eat out frequently and have takeaways delivered to the door. Credit cards are to buy what you can't afford. Buy the latest throwaway clothes. Cheap and cheerful but they won't last long. But neither does wanting to wear them many times. Holidays around the globe on credit cards.

I have full sympathy for those down on their luck. Those who need credit to survive.....If they can get credit. But not those who have a good income but constantly spend what they don't have.

 

[Astute]

The economic consequences of this are very well publicised but fortunate boomers on here and elsewhere don't quite get it. Renting is a habit for the vast majority and there is no longer such thing as a job for life or at the current rate of change permanent jobs themselves are an oddity. Luckily it seems like Generation Z are of similar mindset

I'm not a part of that generation. My kids certainly are not.

Brexit? It has shafted me more than most. But you have to take it on the chin.

Jobs for life mainly disappeared many years ago. They went with manufacturing. But think about it. They had the thought of jobs for life but it didn't end that way.

All my older kids but one own their own home. I struggled for years. The so called boomers didn't have it easy like many seem to make out. Labour disaster in the 70's. I just about remember it as a kid. Mortgage interest rates of 15% or more. Grew up on the select council estates in Coventry.

But yes they have ended up with homes worth much more than they paid. This money will eventually be left to ther younger relatives. They don't see the benefit in them. Yes they had better pensions. We have Gordon Brown to thank for decimating final salary pensions.

I can't wait to leave the rat race. 2 years 362 days to go. We will have the equivalent of only one minimum wage coming in until we reach state pension age. But because we have never done luxuries we will be OK. Spend about 60k buying a house that needs a total renovation. Spend about a year doing it up. Then put my feet up. We will have fruit trees and grow vegetables. I will have my river bank to fish from with a man cave next to me. Wife drinks wine at about a quid a bottle. Quite nice too. My tinnies are also cheap. Invest in a Tesla when the older ones get cheaper. Look at generating my own power to charge it. Then I will have very cheap motoring.

My aims in life are low. Our carbon footprint will be low. But no more getting up at silly o'clock in the morning. No more staying up all night or working weekends and missing the football. £12 flights to Midlands airport for games. I will be able to grow old and die in peace.

 

[The Lurker]

Well, first time buyers reached a 30 year low and house building at a 25 year low under the conservatives so I’m not sure what you think the Tories have done, are doing or will do to help her.

Wasn’t Labour going to cut stamp duty to zero for first time buyers? Would that have not helped her?

Wasn’t Labour going to set up a Housing Dept to get builders and councils building again thus increasing the housing stock? Would that have not helped her?

not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out

 

[clint van damme]

not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out

Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.

 

[Skybluefaz]

not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out

The notion that immigrants are putting a burden on the NHS at this time is fucking disgusting lad. For one, it's proven bollocks. Two, immigrant doctors and nurses are dying to help the people of this country during the coronavirus pandemic. Shame on you.

 

[Astute]

Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.

Correct. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.

A company chartered a flight to bring these workers in. Are you saying there isn't 150 people in the UK that can do the job?

 

[skybluetony176]

not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out

Zzzzzz. Yes it’s all on the nasty foreigners and not the failure of governments to increase the housing stock. Heavens forbid we should hold those accountable for the failings.

 

[wingy]

Correct. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.

A company chartered a flight to bring these workers in. Are you saying there isn't 150 people in the UK that can do the job?

I'd love to do this but I know I wouldn't last a week.these days

 

[skybluetony176]

Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.

A taste of life after Brexit in a small nutshell. It’s either import the workers or import the produce and let the farms rot.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I agree- one of the things I try to teach my kids is that you do not need to live the life you’re told to in order to be content and secure, and work like an idiot just to conform. I have high hopes for the next generations, from what I can tell they ridicule some of the older lot even more than we did when we were their age.

Spot on. I think the younger generations appear to be less focussed on material things (bit of a sweeping generalisation but get that impression). That’s not to say if buying a new car or new house makes someone happy, they shouldn’t go for it.

It’s times like these though that you appreciate some of the more simple things in life (I don’t think I’ve ever strolled around the park opposite after dinner until this)

Little things eh, but ultimately each to their own as long as they’re not harming anyone else

 

[skybluetony176]

Correct. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.

A company chartered a flight to bring these workers in. Are you saying there isn't 150 people in the UK that can do the job?

There’s probably thousands of people in the UK who “could” do the work as you 25000 applied. 200 got a job so far the question is why. You can’t look at the two numbers alone. How many were offered a job and how many turned it down. Working the land is neither an easy job or well paid and never has been. Your average British Joe simply just doesn’t want to do that work when there’s other jobs out there that are easier to do and better paid.

 

[The coventrian]

Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.

No what the government should of done was select 150 or however many needed of the long term dole dossing scroungers we have here and make them earn some of their universal credit.

 

[Astute]

I'd love to do this but I know I wouldn't last a week.these days

Certainly not easy work. Another job that should have higher pay.

I remember doing it instead of going to school. It was when I saw a 20p piece for the first time. Not as easy as it sounds.

 

[Astute]

There’s probably thousands of people in the UK who could do the work as you 25000 applied. 200 got a job so far the question is why. You can’t look at the two numbers alone. How many were offered a job and how many turned it down. Working the land is neither an easy job or well paid and never has been. Your average British Joe simply just doesn’t want to do that work when there’s other jobs out there that are easier to do and better paid.

This is 25,000 that wanted the jobs. The company that flew 150 people in from Romania prefer experienced fruit pickers to those they would have to train. They stated the fact themselves.

But of course we shall just call everyone in the UK bone idle to state a false fact.

 

[The coventrian]

The notion that immigrants are putting a burden on the NHS at this time is fucking disgusting lad. For one, it's proven bollocks. Two, immigrant doctors and nurses are dying to help the people of this country during the coronavirus pandemic. Shame on you.

He's not questioning the people who work for the nhs ffs. Selected immigration is a good thing for this country ie getting the best foreign doctors and nurses to come and work here. He's on about the rest that we dont need putting unnecessary pressure on the nhs/schools/housing etc. But you know this already dont you. It's not unbelievable for me to say whenever I walk into the walk in centre for example I can hardly here an English accent. Why is that? Before you start resorting to the usual nazi rhetoric why is that? Are they always ill? After all they only make up a small percentage of the population.

 

[CCFCSteve]

A taste of life after Brexit in a small nutshell. It’s either import the workers or import the produce and let the farms rot.

Crazy that we can’t get UK workers to do this though. Ultimately I’d imagine pay will have to increase to attract more people to manual agri jobs (may lead to increases in prices but so be it, it’s what should be happening)

Also, what are the kids doing for cash these days ? I used to pick up litter around the local golf course for a few quid when I was younger

 

[The coventrian]

Certainly not easy work. Another job that should have higher pay.

I remember doing it instead of going to school. It was when I saw a 20p piece for the first time. Not as easy as it sounds.

I did it when I left school when I was 16. My citb course didn't start until the September and I was desperate to earn some cash. It was on some farm over balsall common. I pleaded with them on the phone to take me on but they didn't want to as I wasn't 18. I said I didn't want to be paid as much as an adult then they agreed. Absolutely back breaking work. Long hours as well. I remember eating my sandwiches next to the potato harvester with muddy fingers. Glad I did it though. A lot of the kids these days wouldn't even entertain such a job.

 

[The coventrian]

Crazy that we can’t get UK workers to do this though. Ultimately I’d imagine pay will have to increase to attract more people to manual agri jobs (may lead to increases in prices but so be it, it’s what should be happening)

Also, what are the kids doing for cash these days ? I used to pick up litter around the local golf course for a few quid when I was younger

Like I said earlier some people should be forced ie the ones who take the piss with benefits. Problem is though the likes of tony will moan about their rights whilst at the same time moaning about having to import foreign workers.

 

[skybluetony176]

This is 25,000 that wanted the jobs. The company that flew 150 people in from Romania prefer experienced fruit pickers to those they would have to train. They stated the fact themselves.

But of course we shall just call everyone in the UK bone idle to state a false fact.

You and your comprehension. For starters where did I accuse anyone of being lazy? It’s a free country, people are free to choose their employment and personally working the land would be far from my first choice not because I’m lazy but simply because I have better options in terms of pay and conditions. You do understand the difference between applied, offered and accepted? You’re original post could be taken as 25000 applied but only 250 were offered a job. That almost certainly won’t be the case and by the way the NFU are still optimistic that British workers will take the jobs. Working on a farm is one of the jobs that you’re allowed to take to top up your wages while furloughed so it’s possible, however if you live in the centre of London you probably won’t be looking to take a job in Norfolk pulling up carrots for £400 a week. There’s a big question over willingness, that’s willingness not laziness and that is anyone’s free choice to make.