Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (118 Viewers)

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Also the first to have a shorter life expectancy than the last

In my lifetime we have had:

Prolonged and failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria with a disastrous intervention in Libya
Global financial crisis when most of us were leaving school and from which recovery was slower than the 1929 Depression
A decade of austerity
Brexit and that's nowhere near done yet
Coronavirus pandemic likely triggering a second recession

The economic consequences of this are very well publicised but fortunate boomers on here and elsewhere don't quite get it. Renting is a habit for the vast majority and there is no longer such thing as a job for life or at the current rate of change permanent jobs themselves are an oddity. Luckily it seems like Generation Z are of similar mindset

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Grendel said:
I talked about the Coventrian living in a £500k house - are you drunk?

jesus- things, stuff, possessions, self absorption, me, mine, accumulating, consuming, working harder to buy more, take on more debt to buy more, taking lots of selfies on the way, then dying without really having done much apart from ‘perpetuating the cycle’. I don’t claim to have any answers for anyone (apart from maybe emigrate) but that sounds like a shit life to be aiming for.

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
But who's better, Shipley or Bayliss?

shipley for sure, and better haircut too

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
But who's better, Shipley or Bayliss?

Next season we'll find out

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
In my lifetime we have had:

Prolonged and failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria with a disastrous intervention in Libya
Global financial crisis when most of us were leaving school and from which recovery was slower than the 1929 Depression
A decade of austerity
Brexit and that's nowhere near done yet
Coronavirus pandemic likely triggering a second recession

The economic consequences of this are very well publicised but fortunate boomers on here and elsewhere don't quite get it. Renting is a habit for the vast majority and there is no longer such thing as a job for life or at the current rate of change permanent jobs themselves are an oddity. Luckily it seems like Generation Z are of similar mindset

I agree- one of the things I try to teach my kids is that you do not need to live the life you’re told to in order to be content and secure, and work like an idiot just to conform. I have high hopes for the next generations, from what I can tell they ridicule some of the older lot even more than we did when we were their age.

Grendel · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
jesus- things, stuff, possessions, self absorption, me, mine, accumulating, consuming, working harder to buy more, take on more debt to buy more, taking lots of selfies on the way, then dying without really having done much apart from ‘perpetuating the cycle. I don’t claim to have any answers for anyone but that sounds like a shit life to be aiming for.

The notion voting for a parasite like Corbyn would improve your life is beyond comprehension.

Grendel · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
I agree- one of the things I try to teach my kids is that you do not need to live the life you’re told to in order to be content and secure, and work like an idiot just to conform. I have high hopes for the next generations, from what I can tell they ridicule some of the older lot even more than we did when we were their age.

Both of you are of course very middle class and privately educated

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Grendel said:
Both of you are of course very middle class and privately educated

I didn't choose my education G, but I can choose what I do with it

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Grendel said:
The notion voting for a parasite like Corbyn would improve your life is beyond comprehension.

I still want to know how you think we can win over Coventrian

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Grendel said:
The notion voting for a parasite like Corbyn would improve your life is beyond comprehension.

I am not disagreeing with you- anything I say on here on this topic is qualified by the fact that I am not a political person, and I don’t have the political knowledge that you lot clearly do. I hate ‘the system’ and I do completely agree that our kids are walking into a world that has been completely fucked up by those that came before.

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Grendel said:
Both of you are of course very middle class and privately educated

I grew up between Kenilworth Road and Deedmore Road, went to Henrys but it was a bursary, and I didn’t get on too well there, and got my best ever results at The Butts (which was a different universe) while getting the fees paid as I was signing on. I really don’t mind what ‘class’ I am- if it is so important to have a label- but I certainly have no preference, I don’t know what class you’d slot me into. But I guess the key point is... does that matter? Does your perception of what class someone is impact the validity of their opinion? Gotta tell you, that’s a very ‘old boy’ way to view the world. One of the reasons I like it here is that all the social class stuff just doesn’t exist in the way it does there.

anyway, I get a bit lost when it comes to the politics, but I do know that we live in a messed up world and it’s not looking great unless the generations to come change something.

Johhny Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
jesus- things, stuff, possessions, self absorption, me, mine, accumulating, consuming, working harder to buy more, take on more debt to buy more, taking lots of selfies on the way, then dying without really having done much apart from ‘perpetuating the cycle’. I don’t claim to have any answers for anyone (apart from maybe emigrate) but that sounds like a shit life to be aiming for.

I agree with the emigration suggestion. Except for Saturdays and the odd Tuesday

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I still want to know how you think we can win over Coventrian

Get him Katie Hopkins’ autograph maybe

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
I agree with the emigration suggestion. Except for Saturdays and the odd Tuesday

I hear ya. Also St Patrick’s Day, that’s a great day to get out of dodge

Johhny Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
I agree with the emigration suggestion. Except for Saturdays and the odd Tuesday

…...and the fact that I still have over a foot of snow outside

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Get him Katie Hopkins’ autograph maybe

I was thinking the Hungry Caterpillar

Johhny Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
I hear ya. Also St Patrick’s Day, that’s a great day to get out of dodge

I was born in Dublin and got my Canadian Citizenship on St. Paddy's day

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
…...and the fact that I still have over a foot of snow outside

I’d bloody love that, it’s usually just grey here

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
I was born in Dublin and got my Canadian Citizenship on St. Paddy's day

dublin huh, I knew there was something not right about you

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
I’d bloody love that, it’s usually just grey here

Will get across there eventually once this is all over and hopefully throw in NI as well

David O'Day · Apr 17, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I didn't choose my education G, but I can choose what I do with it

Grenners is a modern day hyacinth bucket

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Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

David O'Day said:
Grenners is a modern day hyacinth bucket

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He's the richest brah on here don't you know

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Will get across there eventually once this is all over and hopefully throw in NI as well

you would always be welcome if you’re ever anywhere near me.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
you would always be welcome if you’re ever anywhere near me.

I'd have interest in visiting the village one part of the family originates from (left in the 1850s). Ahead of that though the places that would satisfy the Irish history binge I went on last year

skybluetony176 · Apr 17, 2020

Grendel said:
So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

Well, first time buyers reached a 30 year low and house building at a 25 year low under the conservatives so I’m not sure what you think the Tories have done, are doing or will do to help her.

Wasn’t Labour going to cut stamp duty to zero for first time buyers? Would that have not helped her?

Wasn’t Labour going to set up a Housing Dept to get builders and councils building again thus increasing the housing stock? Would that have not helped her?

Ian1779 · Apr 17, 2020

David O'Day said:
Grenners is a modern day hyacinth bucket

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Only in his forum posts... he’s really Onslow in real life.

Tommo1993 · Apr 17, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Only in his forum posts... he’s really Onslow in real life.

Oh, nice!

Ring Of Steel · Apr 17, 2020

Tommo1993 said:
Oh, nice!

I just googled Onslow, that’s not a pretty picture

fernandopartridge · Apr 17, 2020

Brylowes · Apr 18, 2020

fernandopartridge said:

I posted on here a few days ago that our local hospital trust ‘through a friends of group,
Were appealing on FB for decorators overalls.

Astute · Apr 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
I just googled Onslow, that’s not a pretty picture

You didn't know who Onslow is? His house was filmed in the Aldermoor.

If you are bored of lockdown see if you can find it online somewhere. A proper comedy. You say the older generations had it better. We certainly did with comedy shows. And as a bonus you can pick out parts of Coventry as they drive about.

Astute · Apr 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
jesus- things, stuff, possessions, self absorption, me, mine, accumulating, consuming, working harder to buy more, take on more debt to buy more, taking lots of selfies on the way, then dying without really having done much apart from ‘perpetuating the cycle’. I don’t claim to have any answers for anyone (apart from maybe emigrate) but that sounds like a shit life to be aiming for.

But it is what many seem is the best to do.

New phone out? Better get a new one. Can't be seen with an old model. Rent a new car when an older one is just about as reliable. Eat out frequently and have takeaways delivered to the door. Credit cards are to buy what you can't afford. Buy the latest throwaway clothes. Cheap and cheerful but they won't last long. But neither does wanting to wear them many times. Holidays around the globe on credit cards.

I have full sympathy for those down on their luck. Those who need credit to survive.....If they can get credit. But not those who have a good income but constantly spend what they don't have.

Astute · Apr 18, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The economic consequences of this are very well publicised but fortunate boomers on here and elsewhere don't quite get it. Renting is a habit for the vast majority and there is no longer such thing as a job for life or at the current rate of change permanent jobs themselves are an oddity. Luckily it seems like Generation Z are of similar mindset

I'm not a part of that generation. My kids certainly are not.

Brexit? It has shafted me more than most. But you have to take it on the chin.

Jobs for life mainly disappeared many years ago. They went with manufacturing. But think about it. They had the thought of jobs for life but it didn't end that way.

All my older kids but one own their own home. I struggled for years. The so called boomers didn't have it easy like many seem to make out. Labour disaster in the 70's. I just about remember it as a kid. Mortgage interest rates of 15% or more. Grew up on the select council estates in Coventry.

But yes they have ended up with homes worth much more than they paid. This money will eventually be left to ther younger relatives. They don't see the benefit in them. Yes they had better pensions. We have Gordon Brown to thank for decimating final salary pensions.

I can't wait to leave the rat race. 2 years 362 days to go. We will have the equivalent of only one minimum wage coming in until we reach state pension age. But because we have never done luxuries we will be OK. Spend about 60k buying a house that needs a total renovation. Spend about a year doing it up. Then put my feet up. We will have fruit trees and grow vegetables. I will have my river bank to fish from with a man cave next to me. Wife drinks wine at about a quid a bottle. Quite nice too. My tinnies are also cheap. Invest in a Tesla when the older ones get cheaper. Look at generating my own power to charge it. Then I will have very cheap motoring.

My aims in life are low. Our carbon footprint will be low. But no more getting up at silly o'clock in the morning. No more staying up all night or working weekends and missing the football. £12 flights to Midlands airport for games. I will be able to grow old and die in peace.

The Lurker · Apr 18, 2020

skybluetony176 said:
Well, first time buyers reached a 30 year low and house building at a 25 year low under the conservatives so I’m not sure what you think the Tories have done, are doing or will do to help her.

Wasn’t Labour going to cut stamp duty to zero for first time buyers? Would that have not helped her?

Wasn’t Labour going to set up a Housing Dept to get builders and councils building again thus increasing the housing stock? Would that have not helped her?

not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out

clint van damme · Apr 18, 2020

The Lurker said:
not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out

Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.

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