The notion that immigrants are putting a burden on the NHS at this time is fucking disgusting lad. For one, it's proven bollocks. Two, immigrant doctors and nurses are dying to help the people of this country during the coronavirus pandemic. Shame on you.not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out
Correct. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.
Zzzzzz. Yes it’s all on the nasty foreigners and not the failure of governments to increase the housing stock. Heavens forbid we should hold those accountable for the failings.not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out
I'd love to do this but I know I wouldn't last a week.these daysCorrect. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.
A company chartered a flight to bring these workers in. Are you saying there isn't 150 people in the UK that can do the job?
A taste of life after Brexit in a small nutshell. It’s either import the workers or import the produce and let the farms rot.Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.
I agree- one of the things I try to teach my kids is that you do not need to live the life you’re told to in order to be content and secure, and work like an idiot just to conform. I have high hopes for the next generations, from what I can tell they ridicule some of the older lot even more than we did when we were their age.
There’s probably thousands of people in the UK who “could” do the work as you 25000 applied. 200 got a job so far the question is why. You can’t look at the two numbers alone. How many were offered a job and how many turned it down. Working the land is neither an easy job or well paid and never has been. Your average British Joe simply just doesn’t want to do that work when there’s other jobs out there that are easier to do and better paid.Correct. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.
A company chartered a flight to bring these workers in. Are you saying there isn't 150 people in the UK that can do the job?
No what the government should of done was select 150 or however many needed of the long term dole dossing scroungers we have here and make them earn some of their universal credit.Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.
Certainly not easy work. Another job that should have higher pay.I'd love to do this but I know I wouldn't last a week.these days
This is 25,000 that wanted the jobs. The company that flew 150 people in from Romania prefer experienced fruit pickers to those they would have to train. They stated the fact themselves.There’s probably thousands of people in the UK who could do the work as you 25000 applied. 200 got a job so far the question is why. You can’t look at the two numbers alone. How many were offered a job and how many turned it down. Working the land is neither an easy job or well paid and never has been. Your average British Joe simply just doesn’t want to do that work when there’s other jobs out there that are easier to do and better paid.
He's not questioning the people who work for the nhs ffs. Selected immigration is a good thing for this country ie getting the best foreign doctors and nurses to come and work here. He's on about the rest that we dont need putting unnecessary pressure on the nhs/schools/housing etc. But you know this already dont you. It's not unbelievable for me to say whenever I walk into the walk in centre for example I can hardly here an English accent. Why is that? Before you start resorting to the usual nazi rhetoric why is that? Are they always ill? After all they only make up a small percentage of the population.The notion that immigrants are putting a burden on the NHS at this time is fucking disgusting lad. For one, it's proven bollocks. Two, immigrant doctors and nurses are dying to help the people of this country during the coronavirus pandemic. Shame on you.
A taste of life after Brexit in a small nutshell. It’s either import the workers or import the produce and let the farms rot.
I did it when I left school when I was 16. My citb course didn't start until the September and I was desperate to earn some cash. It was on some farm over balsall common. I pleaded with them on the phone to take me on but they didn't want to as I wasn't 18. I said I didn't want to be paid as much as an adult then they agreed. Absolutely back breaking work. Long hours as well. I remember eating my sandwiches next to the potato harvester with muddy fingers. Glad I did it though. A lot of the kids these days wouldn't even entertain such a job.Certainly not easy work. Another job that should have higher pay.
I remember doing it instead of going to school. It was when I saw a 20p piece for the first time. Not as easy as it sounds.
Like I said earlier some people should be forced ie the ones who take the piss with benefits. Problem is though the likes of tony will moan about their rights whilst at the same time moaning about having to import foreign workers.Crazy that we can’t get UK workers to do this though. Ultimately I’d imagine pay will have to increase to attract more people to manual agri jobs (may lead to increases in prices but so be it, it’s what should be happening)
Also, what are the kids doing for cash these days ? I used to pick up litter around the local golf course for a few quid when I was younger
You and your comprehension. For starters where did I accuse anyone of being lazy? It’s a free country, people are free to choose their employment and personally working the land would be far from my first choice not because I’m lazy but simply because I have better options in terms of pay and conditions. You do understand the difference between applied, offered and accepted? You’re original post could be taken as 25000 applied but only 250 were offered a job. That almost certainly won’t be the case and by the way the NFU are still optimistic that British workers will take the jobs. Working on a farm is one of the jobs that you’re allowed to take to top up your wages while furloughed so it’s possible, however if you live in the centre of London you probably won’t be looking to take a job in Norfolk pulling up carrots for £400 a week. There’s a big question over willingness, that’s willingness not laziness and that is anyone’s free choice to make.This is 25,000 that wanted the jobs. The company that flew 150 people in from Romania prefer experienced fruit pickers to those they would have to train. They stated the fact themselves.
But of course we shall just call everyone in the UK bone idle to state a false fact.
He's not questioning the people who work for the nhs ffs. Selected immigration is a good thing for this country ie getting the best foreign doctors and nurses to come and work here. He's on about the rest that we dont need putting unnecessary pressure on the nhs/schools/housing etc. But you know this already dont you. It's not unbelievable for me to say whenever I walk into the walk in centre for example I can hardly here an English accent. Why is that? Before you start resorting to the usual nazi rhetoric why is that? Are they always ill? After all they only make up a small percentage of the population.
Correct. About 25,000 people in the UK applied to work on farms. Less than 200 got a job so far.
A company chartered a flight to bring these workers in. Are you saying there isn't 150 people in the UK that can do the job?
You should be in government, I’m amazed that no one has thought of doing this before.No what the government should of done was select 150 or however many needed of the long term dole dossing scroungers we have here and make them earn some of their universal credit.
Germany flying in 80000 Romanians and Poles to pick strawberries and asparagus atm. Austria desperately trying to find East European Labour as well.Too many people yet we've had to fly a load of fruit and veg pickers in from Romania this week.
Something's not right.
But aren’t most of the Labour Party too,Minted 2/3 homes as well eg Corbyn,McDonnell,Lady Nugee,Starmer they’ve all got several homes.
Tory/Labour they’re all in it together!!
Like I said earlier some people should be forced ie the ones who take the piss with benefits. Problem is though the likes of tony will moan about their rights whilst at the same time moaning about having to import foreign workers.
One of my daughters had to spend a couple of days in Walsgrave last year (nothing serious) and the first thing that dawned on me while sitting in a corridor for 3 hours waiting for her to come out of theatre was who is going to clean the hospitals after Brexit?Most of the immigrants working for the NHS wouldn't be allowed in under Priti vacants new points system.
That I dont agree with. Them not being allowed in I mean.Most of the immigrants working for the NHS wouldn't be allowed in under Priti vacants new points system.
Standard mature response as usual.You should be in government, I’m amazed that no one has thought of doing this before.
What's wrong with clamping down on both?I'm more worried about the 4 billion lost to tax evasion than the 200 million.lost to benefit fraud to be honest
I'll worry about the latter when they've sorted out the former
What's wrong with clamping down on both?
He's not questioning the people who work for the nhs ffs. Selected immigration is a good thing for this country ie getting the best foreign doctors and nurses to come and work here. He's on about the rest that
Nice oneThat I dont agree with. Them not being allowed in I mean.
Do we actually have enough slack in the British workforce to make it up though? We have had record lows in unemployment for a good while now and agri jobs have a lot of competition. People have choices and the right to choose whatever job they A) want to apply for and B) what they want to accept.Crazy that we can’t get UK workers to do this though. Ultimately I’d imagine pay will have to increase to attract more people to manual agri jobs (may lead to increases in prices but so be it, it’s what should be happening)
Also, what are the kids doing for cash these days ? I used to pick up litter around the local golf course for a few quid when I was younger
People don't like piecework. Most of the seasonal harvesting work is that. Also comes down to geography in many cases in having to get large groups of people from urban to rural areas on a daily basis.Crazy that we can’t get UK workers to do this though. Ultimately I’d imagine pay will have to increase to attract more people to manual agri jobs (may lead to increases in prices but so be it, it’s what should be happening)
Also, what are the kids doing for cash these days ? I used to pick up litter around the local golf course for a few quid when I was younger
There was a time when European countries used to import British workers too. Anyone remember the sitcom Auf Wiedersehen Pet. Had a couple of uncles who went to work in Germany myself when I was a kid.Germany flying in 80000 Romanians and Poles to pick strawberries and asparagus atm. Austria desperately trying to find East European Labour as well.
Spain will continue using illegal immigrant labour.
UK been bringing in European labour for over 30 years. Used to be mainly students on short term visas.
Problem with a lot of commercial-scale operations is pickers living on the farms in dormitory accommodation - not conducive to social distancing etc.
They still do to some extent. My brother occasionally goes to Germany to work on the wind turbines over thereThere was a time when European countries used to import British workers too. Anyone remember the sitcom Auf Wiedersehen Pet. Had a couple of uncles who went to work in Germany myself when I was a kid.
You volunteering then?Of course you did.
Most people on benefits need it. Clamping down on cheats is often used as an excuse to cut back on those who need it, without people complaining, rather than an active desire to root out the few.
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