Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (16 Viewers)

Johhny Blue · Apr 20, 2020

Astute said:
You can buy a house not too far from me for less than 40k. But people still rent. Why is this?

How about what would happen if these landlords didn't buy properties to rent out. Where would those who can't buy live?

It's called "Capitalism" It's here to stay

Gazolba · Apr 20, 2020

Fake news in USA:

ajsccfc · Apr 20, 2020

Would love to get the trusted thoughts of Sean Hannity, someone from Scientology and Sandra on Facebook who thinks 5G caused smallpox

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 20, 2020

Gazolba said:
Fake news in USA:

Mmmmmmmm

shmmeee · Apr 20, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I hope that a reliable antibody test can at least ensure a return to work for some

It wouldn’t. Even at 95% specificity it’d leave too many false positives when done at scale.

Best estimates are <10% of the population have been infected already, so it’s needle in a haystack finding them.

I think maybe age or industry related returns. But I think the idea of antibody passports is fanciful.

Aside from anything else the economy is going to be so depressed through caution and lack of an entertainment industry and all that supports it that many businesses are better off carrying on furlough until a vaccine than trying to open up again and probably going to the wall through lack of business.

skybluetony176 · Apr 20, 2020

ajsccfc said:
Would love to get the trusted thoughts of Sean Hannity, someone from Scientology and Sandra on Facebook who thinks 5G caused smallpox

What do you think really happened to the dinosaurs? Just saying.

clint van damme · Apr 20, 2020

skybluetony176 said:
What do you think really happened to the dinosaurs? Just saying.

They died out because they didn't have guns - fact

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 20, 2020

clint van damme said:
They died out because they didn't have guns - fact

Pandemic

skybluetony176 · Apr 20, 2020

clint van damme said:
They died out because they didn't have guns - fact

Except for the Muslim ray guns.

skybluetony176 · Apr 20, 2020

clint van damme said:
They died out because they didn't have guns - fact

Or maybe they should have just worked out more.

tisza · Apr 20, 2020

So we've furloughs etc. here in Hungary.
"Non-essential" businesses going bust
Hungarians generally don't have savings or credit cards so things pinching after 5 weeks. Most live pay cheque to paycheque - utility bills etc. still coming in (here 60 days to settle or you're disconnected - no ifs or buts)

So now the MPs take a 11.4% pay increase!!!

skybluetony176 · Apr 20, 2020

tisza said:
So we've furloughs etc. here in Hungary.
"Non-essential" businesses going bust
Hungarians generally don't have savings or credit cards so things pinching after 5 weeks. Most live pay cheque to paycheque - utility bills etc. still coming in (here 60 days to settle or you're disconnected - no ifs or buts)

So now the MPs take a 11.4% pay increase!!!

A populist right wing government not in it for the people? Who could possibly have seen that coming?

wingy · Apr 20, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
It's called "Capitalism" It's here to stay

Well until there are no resources left to exploit.

wingy · Apr 20, 2020

tisza said:
So we've furloughs etc. here in Hungary.
"Non-essential" businesses going bust
Hungarians generally don't have savings or credit cards so things pinching after 5 weeks. Most live pay cheque to paycheque - utility bills etc. still coming in (here 60 days to settle or you're disconnected - no ifs or buts)

So now the MPs take a 11.4% pay increase!!!

Has the response got the disease under control?
Seems low from the outside.

tisza · Apr 20, 2020

wingy said:
Has the response got the disease under control?
Seems low from the outside.

we have strange official numbers and no-one is allowed to question govt or medical people under the new laws here!!

Many cases not registered as people just told to self-quarantine and only getting tested if symptoms seriously deteriorate after a week. Get a red sticker for the front door and police check them daily. Big fines if not following the rules.

Normalize our fatalities against UK population (times by 7) and it's around 120-140 deaths per day in hospitals and around 1400 infected in hospital. Think around 70% of cases in the Budapest metropolitan area - not many other large towns or cities here.

Big problem now in care homes.

But like rest of Eastern Europe we went into controlled lockdowns (that police are enforcing) very early because these countries knew there was no chance of health systems handling the level of outbreaks that were happening in Western Europe. Many of our doctors and nurses work in Germany and Austria (same with Czech and Polish doctors and nurses) or in private practice for West European health tourists. 2 Austrian regions had to "force" Hungarians to stay as they made up over 30% of their medical and care home staff according to our national press

We are 3-4 weeks behind UK but people here take the self-quarantining and social distancing far more seriously than UK population seemed to. (also more households here have elderly relatives living with them so more careful).

The daily briefings here are given by Chief Medical officer (flanked by uniformed police and border guard representatives), Gives a far more "unwritten" threat than watching the likes of Gove, Raab etc.

Forgot to mention that for some reason Govt started clearing 36,000 hospital beds last week without a clear reason why (and doctors aren't allowed to tell us why)

djr8369 · Apr 20, 2020

David O'Day said:
He's doing alright if he is telling the truth. JLR aren't likely to be employing as many people in future

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Yes, the situation at JLR seems very perilous.

fernandopartridge · Apr 20, 2020

David O'Day · Apr 20, 2020

fernandopartridge said:

Those stereophonics gigs look like they were prime transmission grounds given the profile of patients in some south Wales icus

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Deleted member 5849 · Apr 20, 2020

Interesting framing

PM fears second peak from relaxing lockdown

jimmyhillsfanclub · Apr 20, 2020

I'm guessing the North-West rise in numbers (apparently against the trend) may also have been fuelled by the Athletico v Redshite match.....stupid cunts.

fernandopartridge · Apr 20, 2020

David O'Day said:
Those stereophonics gigs look like they were prime transmission grounds given the profile of patients in some south Wales icus

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Yeah, I follow one of the consultants on twitter, age profile is pretty low compared with the average.

I see Cummings has written a blog (purportedly representing the government) that attempts to rebut the assertions in the Sunday Times article, but in many cases just strengthens them! He's a card isn't he

David O'Day · Apr 20, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Yeah, I follow one of the consultants on twitter, age profile is pretty low compared with the average.

I see Cummings has written a blog (purportedly representing the government) that attempts to rebut the assertions in the Sunday Times article, but in many cases just strengthens them! He's a card isn't he

If by card you mean prick then yep.

And as the poster above says it was madness to allow away fans to attend that bin dippers vs athletico match

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hill83 · Apr 20, 2020

fernandopartridge said:

Cheltenham festival was a joke to be honest in regards to the response to this. Shouldn’t have gone ahead. They made a big song and dance about the hand gel stations or whatever they called them. I saw one with 6 hand gel pumps attached to it. And it was disgusting. Would have been worse off using it. Other than that, no other provisions.

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Really wish I didn’t go. Gave in to peer and beer pressure.

Ring Of Steel · Apr 20, 2020

David O'Day said:
Those stereophonics gigs look like they were prime transmission grounds given the profile of patients in some south Wales icus

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whereas at the time the armchair experts on here said that anyone raising that concert was a "do gooder" and any concern was ridiculed.

wingy · Apr 20, 2020

Is there really pressure being applied by some to get schools open .
I see they're still shut in Hubei province with only the prospect of seniors sitting exams going back on May 6th.

djr8369 · Apr 20, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
PPE is on the way? I thought there wasn't any need as there is no shortage and it's fake news?

Story changes every day doesn't it. I'm waiting for the day they really jump the shark and say PPE doesn't even exist and never has.

Yes, as I said the other day it's amazing how often we are being asked to believe in two conflicting things.

wingy · Apr 20, 2020

Germany’s largest paper to China's president: You're endangering the worl

shmmeee · Apr 20, 2020

Nick · Apr 20, 2020

Are hospital gowns really only one use??? That's madness.

BackRoomRummermill · Apr 20, 2020

Sky_Blue_Daz · Apr 20, 2020

Nick said:
Are hospital gowns really only one use??? That's madness.

The ones me and my colleagues have to use are, bearring in mind we have to use gowns , visors and masks , long gloves . If you fancy a sip of water you have to take everything off then put brand new stuff on

shmmeee · Apr 20, 2020

Nick said:
Are hospital gowns really only one use??? That's madness.

Think you can wash them. Or are you talking about the aprons they wear over scrubs?

Edit: confusing gowns and scrubs. Daz makes more sense.

shmmeee · Apr 20, 2020

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Shouldn’t that be Dominic Raab? Abbott’s thing is maths (actually it’s diabetes but still) it’s Raab that didn’t realise Dover was important for continual trade.

Also, I say Johnson is dim and people rally round saying he can’t be because he got a degree in Classics from Oxford after having gone to Eton. I notice these people are a lot quieter about a black woman not from a privileged background who got her History degree from Cambridge.

(I don’t even rate Abbott, just find this stuff off)

Grendel · Apr 20, 2020

wingy · Apr 20, 2020

shmmeee said:
Shouldn’t that be Dominic Raab? Abbott’s thing is maths (actually it’s diabetes but still) it’s Raab that didn’t realise Dover was important for continual trade.

Also, I say Johnson is dim and people rally round saying he can’t be because he got a degree in Classics from Oxford after having gone to Eton. I notice these people are a lot quieter about a black woman not from a privileged background who got her History degree from Cambridge.

(I don’t even rate Abbott, just find this stuff off)

I don't think he was conveying a message.
Just making a joke .
TBF there are many candidates of the other persuasion who could be substituted in for her .
Of course it is possible he holds a bias for one party or the other .

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