Grendel
Well-Known Member
Eh? I am saying Italy are across Europe - other than Germany - showing far less deaths outside hospital. That’s a fact - why so defensive
Your attempts to deflect away from the unfolding tragedy in the UK and score cheap political points is pretty shameful. Both countries are going to have much higher death counts.
You claimed no effort was being made whatsoever, which simply isn’t true.Eh? I am saying Italy are across Europe - other than Germany - showing far less deaths outside hospital. That’s a fact - why so defensive
You claimed no effort was being made whatsoever, which simply isn’t true.
And yet more bollocks to deflect away from reality.Well adding a token number of deaths I suspect.l suspect you’d be all over Mr Johnson if he made that statement wouldn’t you?
And yet more bollocks to deflect away from reality.
I'm sorry.
And yet again more deflection away from today’s news and a government that has overseen a crisis despite the warnings and one that you’ve blindly and unquestionably backed at every stage throughout.So if the uk government had produced the same data as Italy regarding deaths outside hospitals would you have reacted in the same way? They are doing their best?
Would you?
Excess deaths for Italy:So only a few hundred have died outside hospitals? Wow
to be honest, that doesn't cut it!
Yes Alan Im the same as him in that respectNot commented on China at all. You're pedalling the same I'm holier than thou nonsense that you do on the EU in out thread. . Here you are giving us the same rhetoric yet again. It's incredibly boring and predictable. Shall I bump the EU thread for you so you can spout the same line on there again ?
Estimates of 120,000 people in this country alone. Though technically that was the government response to the crisis rather than directly.
Source: Health and social care spending cuts linked to 120,000 excess deaths in England | BMJ
So you should be!I'm sorry.
Oops unpatriotic leftie uppity thing.Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.
Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.
Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?
Hancock is such a lightweight, I've reached the conclusion that the Tories just are not bright enough to have fucked this up by design. They're just fucking stupid.Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.
Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.
Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?
Easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime.Hancock is such a lightweight, I've reached the conclusion that the Tories just are not bright enough to have fucked this up by design. They're just fucking stupid.
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You'd almost say that this covid crisis is an extension of thatCoventrian gone very quiet.....!
Easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime.
They’re just all so fucking stupid. In fairness the Labour front bench last year was also the stupidest in living memory.
Why are all our politicians so fucking dumb? What happened to the intellectual powerhouses?
Got to love a scientific plan with multiple question Mark's against data.Had a read through the Scottish government's latest publication on ways of easing restrictions and noticed this-pure guesswork really including ?? all over
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Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.
Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.
Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?
Got to love a scientific plan with multiple question Mark's against data.
Also seems we were worse than Italy at flattening the curve
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Got to post some more tests out to get the numbers up!DH figures are late today, wonder what the reason for that is.
DH figures are late today, wonder what the reason for that is.
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Don't understand a lot of that but to dumb it down for me does that mean that the people who think they may have had it in December could have had an older, less easily transmissible form of covid-19?For those who are keen to sue China, not that I'm sure there's even a mechanism to do that, this report suggests that the strain of the virus causing so many problems in here and in the US is D614G which may have originated here.
Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2
Edit: just to be clear and so nobody panics this isn't a new more transmissible form that has just been discovered dropping us deeper in the shit, its the one we're already dealing with.
693 deaths today.
85k ish tests
Is it me or is the death totals not falling as fast as you’d expect?
The way they’ve become and afterthought in many countries is a disgrace.looks like care homes are now becoming a huge issue.
A lot of it is over my head but the bit I do get is that the virus, as with regular flu, mutates into different strains. Hence the yearly flu jab is a best guess of which strain they think will be dominant that winter.Don't understand a lot of that but to dumb it down for me does that mean that the people who think they may have had it in December could have had an older, less easily transmissible form of covid-19?
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