Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (255 Viewers)

[Grendel]

A lot more people in school for a lot longer time than a 90 minute match

Where is the evidence - are you saying there is no risk to footballers or the families?

 

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[Grendel]

You’re right I can’t be arsed that’s why I’m working till 1-2 am each day to make lessons, mark work, run online clubs etc etc

Sick of the lazy teacher trope coming out from those who’ve never done it.

You seem to spend a lot of time in here for someone so busy?

 

[Ian1779]

Just to see if there's a common denominator...apart of course from their obvious concern for pupils and teachers.

The insinuation you are making also has a direct link to the councils that the government has underfunded in this crisis....

I’m sure you’ll be well aware of the increasing funding that has gone to Home Counties councils and the link between them and government.

 

[clint van damme]

It’s a commercial decision?

I'd like to see the figures on that one, I can't see there been too much difference either way, (working on the assumption that they'll have to reimburse fees if they stay closed). but could charge a reduced rate for the last 5 or 6 weeks of the school year if they return.

I'm struggling to see why yourself and Ernie are clambering for state schools to return if you're OK with private schools deferring until September?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm doubting they'll be testing all school kids about 3 times a week

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The deputy CMO said this evening that children seem to transmit at a similar or slightly lower rate than adults. If we want to half fill the school let’s half fill the Commons

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I'd like to see the figures on that one, I can't see there been too much difference either way, (working on the assumption that they'll have to reimburse fees if they stay closed). but could charge a reduced rate for the last 5 or 6 weeks of the school year if they return.

I'm struggling to see why yourself and Ernie are clambering for state schools to return if you're OK with private schools deferring until September?

Weird isn’t it? Anybody might think there was some kind of personal interest involved

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'd like to see the figures on that one, I can't see there been too much difference either way, (working on the assumption that they'll have to reimburse fees if they stay closed). but could charge a reduced rate for the last 5 or 6 weeks of the school year if they return.

I'm struggling to see why yourself and Ernie are clambering for state schools to return if you're OK with private schools deferring until September?

If private schools have been maintaining close to a full remote provision they can probably get by with freezing the fees but still getting payment

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Weird isn’t it? Anybody might think there was some kind of personal interest involved

You know it’s funny that people are so keen for lazy pieces of shit to be in charge of their children

 

[David O'Day]

The deputy CMO said this evening that children seem to transmit at a similar or slightly lower rate than adults. If we want to half fill the school let’s half fill the Commons

Let's not fill either

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[Grendel]

I'd like to see the figures on that one, I can't see there been too much difference either way, (working on the assumption that they'll have to reimburse fees if they stay closed). but could charge a reduced rate for the last 5 or 6 weeks of the school year if they return.

I'm struggling to see why yourself and Ernie are clambering for state schools to return if you're OK with private schools deferring until September?

Education is carrying on in private schools but a lot of staff are furloughed to save overall cost

I’ve said actually schools could start in August rather than Jime. Brighton then moaned august start would mean he has less than 8 weeks holiday

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Let's not fill either

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No the union bashers on the right need to have their way

 

[Grendel]

The deputy CMO said this evening that children seem to transmit at a similar or slightly lower rate than adults. If we want to half fill the school let’s half fill the Commons

Perhaps we should halve salaries of both as well in all for that to save the taxpayer

 

[skybluetony176]

Where is the evidence - are you saying there is no risk to footballers or the families?

Footballers can self isolate themselves from family if they do catch it. How does a 5 year old child self isolate from their family?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Education is carrying on in private schools but a lot of staff are furloughed to save overall cost

I’ve said actually schools could start in August rather than Jime. Brighton then moaned august start would mean he has less than 8 weeks holiday

You really are a Class A prick G

 

[David O'Day]

What the right wing zoomers don't get is until it is shown to be without a doubt safe to reopen schools then they should not e reopened.

End of story

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[Ring Of Steel]

Footballers can self isolate themselves from family if they do catch it. How does a 5 year old child self isolate from their family?

ask Boris, he seems to find it easy enough to distance from his kids

 

[David O'Day]

Footballers can self isolate themselves from family if they do catch it. How does a 5 year old child self isolate from their family?

Footballers will be tested 3 times a week.

Teachers and school kids won't l. It's a piss poor argu6

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[shmmeee]

You’re right I can’t be arsed that’s why I’m working till 1-2 am each day to make lessons, mark work, run online clubs etc etc

Sick of the lazy teacher trope coming out from those who’ve never done it.

If teaching was half as easy as people make out I’d never have left. The fact it’s got a ridiculous turnover of staff should suggest to even the densest that it’s no easy job.

 

[Grendel]

You really are a Class A prick G

You said it would ruin your holiday?

 

[shmmeee]

Education is carrying on in private schools but a lot of staff are furloughed to save overall cost

I’ve said actually schools could start in August rather than Jime. Brighton then moaned august start would mean he has less than 8 weeks holiday

State schools are 6 weeks at Summer.

 

[David O'Day]

You really are a Class A prick G

He's a bitter c**t

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

You said it would ruin your holiday?

You have got what you were after-a bite

I have got what I was after-a vent

Though yes funnily enough state school teachers get 6 off in the summer not 8 and you were proposing to cut that in half while ignoring the huge logistical and contractual issues that would cause.

You have no interest in genuine discussion so back onto ignore you go.

 

[Grendel]

State schools are 6 weeks at Summer.

What about other terms and bank holidays? It’s a big benefit of the job

 

[Grendel]

You have got what you were after-a bite

I have got what I was after-a vent

Though yes funnily enough state school teachers get 6 off in the summer not 8 and you were proposing to cut that in half while ignoring the huge logistical and contractual issues that would cause.

You have no interest in genuine discussion so back onto ignore you go.

like all teachers hissy fit and the truth hurts. Always stuck in an 80’s mentality of unionism

 

[Grendel]

ask Boris, he seems to find it easy enough to distance from his kids

He looks younger than you Mr Gammon

 

[David O'Day]

You have got what you were after-a bite

I have got what I was after-a vent

Though yes funnily enough state school teachers get 6 off in the summer not 8 and you were proposing to cut that in half while ignoring the huge logistical and contractual issues that would cause.

You have no interest in genuine discussion so back onto ignore you go.

Best place for him.



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[Ian1779]

like all teachers hissy fit and the truth hurts. Always stuck in an 80’s mentality of unionism

Name the time and you can come to my school and teach. You won’t last a week.

EDIT: it’s state school so you’ll have to mix with the poor people. Have you got enough PPE?

 

[David O'Day]

Name the time and you can come to my school and teach. You won’t last a week.

He's barely literate though.

Still he could teach the kids how to have a pretend life online

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Name the time and you can come to my school and teach. You won’t last a week.

EDIT: it’s state school so you’ll have to mix with the poor people. Have you got enough PPE?

Does your school have a Starbucks?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I don't buy this shit of not reopening schools. Me and my daughters mother are key workers. My daughters been in school all the way through, along with around 30 other pupils.

Not one child has been suspected. Not one member of staff, '( and a lot of them have been in). Its an excuse in my eyes. Why am i able to have contact with people in my line of work (delivery driver), where i am in contact with over 50 people a day, yet teachers can't?. Screams of a cant be arsed till September attitude to me. Education is important.

Luckily my daughter has been taught around 2 hours per day ( shes in reception) so won't struggle, but what about other children who haven't learnt a thing since March?

Open the schools with measures out in place best as possible. Same now with most workplaces. The furlough money and business grants etc aren't a bottomless pit of money. We need to get back to normal asap now.

Sheild the vulnerable best we can, and take precaution best we can and crack on.

When you say your daughter has been in school with 30 other pupils, is that in total or in her class?

Primary teacher goes back teaching a class of 30+. Kids have no clue as to the dangers, social distancing etc. Need to touch everything. Little germ factories.

Secondary teacher goes back. Takes say five lessons a day. 30 kids or more per class. Some of those kids will see friends outside of their own class. In potential contact with over 150 different people a day. And you know some will ignore efforts to social distance etc just to be a pain in the arse. And there will be the odd dickhead who will deliberately cough on teachers or even spit at them.

Then they all go home......

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You seem to spend a lot of time in here for someone so busy?

Says the important JLR guy who's managed 50k posts on here.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Perhaps we should halve salaries of both as well in all for that to save the taxpayer

And pay the furloughed JLR staff nothing that are doing nothing to save the taxpayer too.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

What about other terms and bank holidays? It’s a big benefit of the job

Do you even realise they have to prepare all the stuff they have to teach, get all the materials ready, lesson plan, mark, etc.

Does your work only start and finish when you're actually in meetings, on the phone etc or is most of it preparing for those meetings etc?

 

[oakey]

I trust teachers and their unions to know more about, care more about and be having sleepless nights about the welfare of children, their families and their communities than the dishonest shower of sh!t that constitute the Johnson government.
That the Tory party have the brassneck to talk about deprived children's health and education after presiding over welfare cuts for a decade AND throwing the care homes to the wolves is beyond despicable.
They are only interested in economic units. The kids must go to school whether it is safe does not matter one jot.

 

[shmmeee]

Do you even realise they have to prepare all the stuff they have to teach, get all the materials ready, lesson plan, mark, etc.

Does your work only start and finish when you're actually in meetings, on the phone etc or is most of it preparing for those meetings etc?

A reasonable estimate for good teaching is double or triple the time spent in the classroom outside of it, varies by course (more for English, less for PE) and experience level of the teacher. Then you have TLRs/Management responsibilities on top. Coursework season can easily lead to you marking and remarking work for entire classes multiple times a week let alone a term.

The days of teachers that rocked up at 8:30 and hit the pub at 3 went out with the cane.