Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (106 Viewers)

[covmark]

Since this virus became active I have been using British supermarkets filled with British people not following the guidelines. Going for exercise in British open spaces with more British people not following the guidelines. Add all that time up and the time spent in a heavily distanced airport and plane on the way there and back, and the risk is acceptably low. Particularly, and I keep making this point, as it's to spend a week somewhere much safer in terms of Covid than this country is. We're also talking around 6-7 weeks on from the initially proposed return date to schools.

If it was anywhere else, we'd have cancelled already.

Fair enough mate.

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[clint van damme]

People should do time for this shit. It's a national fucking disgrace.

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be interesting to see the detail of this and who responsibility can be pinned on.
I wonder, if after all the Cummings stuff, Johnson needs a sacking under his belt.

 

[David O'Day]

What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen

Yes a safe balance.

What the hell is wrong with you? You seem so desperate to end the restrictions you don't care if people die

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[shmmeee]

Not sure there would be a great deal to gain by getting everyone back in for a couple of weeks before the summer holiday.

Just checked the schools local to me and they all seem to be saying they can't take all pupils back while maintaining social distancing. So its either continuing to act essentially as child care for essential workers or rota students part time.

From a parents POV as well, if I’m not getting enough childcare to go back to work full time, is it worth sending my kid to (her words) “basically a prison” (because of distancing measures) for a few weeks when I’ve got the other one at home anyway?

I just don’t see this great clamour for schools to reopen now for a month or so, at all this effort for so little reward. Seems entirely built around “the other kids are allowed” type thinking.

We’ve decimated public services for a decade and now act like we can match the likes of Denmark for space and staff. It’s utterly delusional.

 

[clint van damme]

What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen

yes they have, and some have reimposed restrictions.

 

[jordan210]

Not sure if this got posted.

 

[shmmeee]

Not sure if this got posted.

Fuck me they’re scraping the barrel. Haven’t read it yet but is it complete shite like literally every other Guido story?

Edit: yep. Yep it is.

 

[jordan210]

Fuck me they’re scraping the barrel. Haven’t read it yet but is it complete shite like literally every other Guido story?

Its a true Story about our very own Lego head.

 

[shmmeee]

Its a true Story about our very own Lego head.

Yeah it’s CWR retweeting a tweet Gilbert deleted and reposted with more clarity. It’s hardly watergate.



My general rule of thumb that Guido is a bag of shit holds.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yeah it’s CWR retweeting a tweet Gilbert deleted and reposted with more clarity. It’s hardly watergate.



My general rule of thumb that Guido is a bag of shit holds.

Shame he only clarified once they published that mind you.

 

[David O'Day]

Yeah it’s CWR retweeting a tweet Gilbert deleted and reposted with more clarity. It’s hardly watergate.



My general rule of thumb that Guido is a bag of shit holds.

Aye it's guido

Not a real news source

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[David O'Day]

yes they have, and some have reimposed restrictions.

Exactly even the much vaunted South Korea are having to tighten.

Dom is a walking talking study in confirmation bias

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[David O'Day]

Shame he only clarified once they published that mind you.

His original tweet wasn't even that misleading.

There's many things to beat Gilbert for but this isn't one.

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[clint van damme]

Fuck me they’re scraping the barrel. Haven’t read it yet but is it complete shite like literally every other Guido story?

Edit: yep. Yep it is.

Independent SAGE getting mixed up with official SAGE.
Gilbert sloppy as usual. Not a communist conspiracy as suggested by some of the replies.

 

[jordan210]

Yeah it’s CWR retweeting a tweet Gilbert deleted and reposted with more clarity. It’s hardly watergate.



My general rule of thumb that Guido is a bag of shit holds.

took him a few times to delete it. At first he kinda tired to style it out. By replying under it with vague clarification. Then deleted it.

ultimately poor journalism from him and Guido

 

[shmmeee]

took him a few times to delete it. At first he kinda tired to style it out. By replying under it with vague clarification. Then deleted it.

ultimately poor journalism from him and Guido

Not defending Gilbert, just saying picking up on minor errors by local journalists to have a stick to beat the BBC with is scraping the barrel

 

[David O'Day]

Seems the concerns that the government wanted to reduce the furlough payment they were making to 60 percent were true.

Asking employers with no income to pay 20 percent plus ni contributions will lead to more jobs gone

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[David O'Day]

Not defending Gilbert, just saying picking up on minor errors by local journalists to have a stick to beat the BBC with is scraping the barrel

Yep we all know Gilbert is a poor journalist.

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[David O'Day]

Coronavirus updates: Schools close again over South Korea virus spike - BBC News

The WHO don't think the virus is just going away

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[ajsccfc]

I bet even the most rabid Cov fan that Gilbert has had to deal with pales into comparison with the BBC tinfoil loons.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Seems the concerns that the government wanted to reduce the furlough payment they were making to 60 percent were true.

Asking employers with no income to pay 20 percent plus ni contributions will lead to more jobs gone

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Can’t see him doing that, it would be crazy and millions will be without a job, they need to keep the 80% for companies with no income and reduce for companies who are resuming work....

Are they basically saying we’ll pay 60% and if the employee wants the other 20% the company will have to pay it? How will people afford 60%

 

[David O'Day]

Can’t see him doing that, it would be crazy and millions will be without a job, they need to keep the 80% for companies with no income and reduce for companies who are resuming work

Well there are multiple reports now that this is what they plan.

His tweets as pointed out to you st thevtimecof his commons statement said employers would have to pay a part of the furlough money.

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[SkyBlueDom26]

Well there are multiple reports now that this is what they plan.

His tweets as pointed out to you st thevtimecof his commons statement said employers would have to pay a part of the furlough money.

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I can’t see how people will be able to pay bills on 60%, it’s obvious companies with no income won’t be able to pay the 20%

 

[David O'Day]

I can’t see how people will be able to pay bills on 60%, it’s obvious companies with no income won’t be able to pay the 20%

He said it himself at the start of may as per below this would happen

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[SkyBlueDom26]

He said it himself at the start of may as per below this would happen

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Well millions will end up unemployed if that’s the case, how can you expect companies with 0 income to pay people’s wages.... it should deffo be the case that people who can work shouldn’t be on furlough! This is why we have to get the economy going again and things back to normal

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I can’t see how people will be able to pay bills on 60%, it’s obvious companies with no income won’t be able to pay the 20%

Practically, government isn't a bottomless money pit. Time to raise taxes to pay for the state aid.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Practically, government isn't a bottomless money pit. Time to raise taxes to pay for the state aid.

Why we have to start getting the economy going again and lifting the lockdown safely

 

[jordan210]

I bet even the most rabid Cov fan that Gilbert has had to deal with pales into comparison with the BBC tinfoil loons.

Some of the shite that Laura kuenssberg has to put up with, generally make you feel sorry for her. even tough she can be annoying as hell

 

[Ian1779]

Some of the shite that Laura kuenssberg has to put up with, generally make you feel sorry for her. even tough she can be annoying as hell

As Secretary of State for Propaganda- she deserves no sympathy.

 

[David O'Day]

I bet even the most rabid Cov fan that Gilbert has had to deal with pales into comparison with the BBC tinfoil loons.

They aren't mutually exclusive

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[fernandopartridge]

Was lockdown to prevent a massive uncontrollable peak yes or no?

No one ever said it was until deaths or infections had reached a certain point.

Im not a tory or a lefty, but I've had enough. The MSM have made people believe this is necessary. It isnt anymore. We did what we were meant to do.

By all means if it fires back up again or there is a second wave ( which wont happen) then bring in the restrictions.

Coronavirus updates: Schools close again over South Korea virus spike - BBC News

The WHO don't think the virus is just going away

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Nah, Saddlebrains has said it's on its way out.

 

[David O'Day]

Why we have to start getting the economy going again and lifting the lockdown safely

Yes dom safely

Also currently the government gilts are negative for the first time in history so technically we can borrow money and be paid for it.



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[David O'Day]

Nah, Saddlebrains has said it's on its way out.

The 2nd part of his name is up in front of trading standards

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[skybluetony176]

Coronavirus updates: Schools close again over South Korea virus spike - BBC News

Let’s not forget that South Korea got this far more under control than we ever have and a lot sooner, had an effective track and trace system in place from day one unlike the shite we have that’s been thrown together by some of Boris’ mates with the worst track record in doing this type of thing and even then isn’t even going to be fully working until the end of (insert month here) and South Korea also has one of the most efficient, capable, effective and largest testing set up of any countries in the world.

Based on all that Dom why should people send their kids to school on Monday?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Saddle have you seen

Brazjl
Chile
Mexico
India

The virus is alive and kicking. Now if we are saying we recognise the risks and will open up anyway and take the consequences then ok but we’re not