Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Whichever it is he'd start by saying he'll build a bridge to it.
Shame he can't bridge the gap between his ears.
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Whichever it is he'd start by saying he'll build a bridge to it.
Shame he can't bridge the gap between his ears.
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Somebody has to pay for furlough if you don't want business to foot 20%. Personally I'm happy to pay a little extra to support those less fortunate, and it seems you are too.
David O'Day
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Sheffield won't open any of it's schools until the track and trace system has been fully operation for 14 days
Sensible
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clint van damme
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Which means they won't be opening until September as track and trace won't be fully up and running until end of June.
Why don't we just scrap the rest of this school year and concentrate on getting schools as safe as we possibly can for September.
Temperature tests, PPE, spraying bags on entry,.deep clean over night.
Other countries are doing it.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The problem will be in those schools where remote learning hasn’t really been attempted or done effectively and so there would be huge issues for the exam classes. I do think they need at least some time in.
Ian1779
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I see what you are saying - my concern is that a lot of parents won’t send their kids in regardless for a number of reasons - safety being the primary one but also needing to supervise younger siblings that are not back at school. I think we run the risk of having even larger gaps in learning between kids than we already have to try and close. It would be easier and probably fairer for the exam boards to think about reasonable adjustments for next year also.
shmmeee
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Practically it is TBF. As long as they claw back enough through tax. Government is there to add and remove from the money supply. Who they add to and who they remove from is a political decision. Inflation is well down so that’s hardly a worry right now, interest rates are rock bottom.
Now isn’t the time for austerity through tax raises or spending cuts. It’s time to stimulate the economy and put money in people’s pockets. We can pay off the debt over decades like we always do.
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Exactly, tax has to come in. If raising taxes enables more people to keep their jobs, that stimulates the economy. What doesn't is making people unemployed and having to pay them benefts instead.
But... somebody has to pay. It's pretty crazy to run up a massive debt and then have to pay it down, that stops your spending further down the line. And there's absolutely no reason why any of us should care about an extra penny or two on income tax, and a higher rate at a higher wage earning threshold.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Wanting things to appear sort of normal?
Ring Of Steel
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So it wasn't actually Cummings' Dad's house at all, as he told everyone, it was his second residence. He's also on the electoral register there
Nick
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Just messing people about.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Could always sacrifice the summer holidays as G suggested
shmmeee
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Disagree. Raising taxes or cutting spending now stops people spending to get business back on its feet. The pandemic is a one off that it’s entirely sensible to borrow to get through.
I support tax rises for improving public services anyway. But the idea you pay for one off costs through them when borrowing is so cheap is dangerous and leads to the Question Time Audience Economists blathering on about buying pints with a tenner.
There’s nothing wrong with debt and deficit at a time of crisis. That’s what it’s there for.
David O'Day
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chiefdave
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Am I missing something here? Find it concerning talking about using the Midlands as some sort of test to see if things can be opened without killing more people. Not helped by the fact Street mentions things like "economic driver" but no mention for public health.
West Midlands region seeking to be national test bed for re-opening hospitality and culture venues
West Midlands region seeking to be national test bed for re-opening hospitality and culture venues
clint van damme
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There's some talk that document may be fake but who knows what's true or not anymore.
And if it is fake who's leaked it?
Would be convenient for Cummings to still be in the news if it keeps Jenrick and Raabs latest troubles off the front page.
Ring Of Steel
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clint van damme
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chiefdave
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Would be easy to disprove wouldn't it? Anyone can access the information online at the Land Registry for £3. He has certainly been on the electoral roll there, you can check that for free.
Did laugh at the first defence of this I saw on twitter. Doesn't count as a second home as its only in his name to avoid paying tax!
chiefdave
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There was this earlier in the week as well:
Hospital closes A&E and stops accepting patients after new virus outbreak | Metro News
I totally understand one of the aims of lockdown was to avoid overwhelming the NHS but that shouldn't be the only measure. Even if hospitals aren't overwhelmed its still a discussion about potential lives lost. That seems to be getting forgotten in many discussions about easing lockdown.
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chiefdave
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Even in the briefing yesterday if you look at what Valance said compared to what Johnson said it gave cause for concern about easing lockdown.
fernandopartridge
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I'm reasonably confident that by March 2021 the excess deaths figure will be pushing 200k.
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I've always said,if I were comfortable they were following the scientific advice, I'd go along with it as how on earth can I judge myself?
I'm becoming less and less comfortable, it must be said. One would hope that if there were a *serious* divergance there'd be some resignations, mind you...
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Very concerning. All about the £££, not one care given as to the public health consequences (or even the economic consequences of opening too soon and ending up having to shut them again for even longer than we would've.
But we're 'being led by the science'. Even though the science says it's still too early, deaths and infections are still too high even if the trends are downward, Johnson has re-iterated the intention to go to level 3 when everything says it should remain at 4.
Ring Of Steel
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But his approval rating is really good under the circumstances so everything is just fine
clint van damme
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Fucking hell. Will I ever get off this fucking island again.
I know how the characters in Athletico minces Scottish stories feel now.
Cummings is the Laird.
fernandopartridge
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Seen a few cretins on facebook saying "I don't think Greece can afford to pick and choose" - I really think this country has got so obsessed with perceived wealth, it's fucking rotten.
skybluetony176
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The irony being Greece can’t afford to not pick and choose seeing how they’ve got on top of it. Not bad for the “poor man” of Europe. Just another measure of how incompetent our government is.
oakey
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Soon there will be 4 more new categories for pupils to add to ... Pupil Premium, English as additional language, BAME, Special Educ. Needs, High Prior Attainers, Medium Prior attainers and Low Prior attainers etc
4 new categories -
1) Did they do the work set since March?
2) Did they return to school when it was voluntary in June/July?
YES/YES
YES/NO
NO/ NO
NO/YES
Better get those spreadsheets fired up
4 new categories -
1) Did they do the work set since March?
2) Did they return to school when it was voluntary in June/July?
YES/YES
YES/NO
NO/ NO
NO/YES
Better get those spreadsheets fired up