hill83
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It will have some affect from what I've seen. I was in town on Saturday for the first time in ages and it was complete and utter carnage from midnight.
My local shuts at 2230 anyway post lockdown so I don't think this is the magic key. Just pointless distraction from the data which is all going in the wrong direction.
Table service, close at 10 and try and work from home.
There has to be more or what is the point
Possibly but I’m with Hill in this, most of the breaking of rules happens after 11/midnight. I don’t see everyone starting earlier and getting in the same state. This in conjunction with stricter rules implemented at bars/pubs (got to be enforced), and stopping people all piling back round someone’s house (now banned) might just help. Soon find out
People will just start earlier, at the end of the first lockdown most pubs shut at 11 and between 9 and 11 it was carnage. Also people will still pile back to someones.
There is no epidemiological reasoning behind it. It's wanting to be seen to be doing something but not doing enough as doing enough would entail having to financially support the hospitality industry and the people who work in it.
They have been open for months Steve but the spike has only taken off since one thing in particular reopened.
You put your whole self inDifferent day, different message
Coronavirus: work from home if you can, Gove says in government U-turn
Minister announces ‘shift in emphasis’ in England as coronavirus infections soarwww.theguardian.com
plans to bring 80% of civil servants back to work by the end of the month had now been put on hold
Suits me Sir.
Would closing at 10 "encourage" people who are already 6 or 7 pints in to a session to go back to someones house after 10?
To be fair, this ‘U turn’ stuff is nonsense. The virus has spiked, measures need to be taken. When it dips, relax the measures. It’s happening all over the world.
You think? Here's 11 examples to get us started.
U-turn if you want to: 11 times Boris Johnson reversed government policy
Margaret Thatcher once famously said "You turn if you want to, the lady's not for turning!" as she faced suggestions she was about to U-turn on government policy - but it seems her latest successor isn't as afraid to reverse his plans.news.sky.com
I think they'd be better ensuring that places are complying with the current guidelines.
Some aren't bothering too much whether it's 2 in the afternoon or 10 at night and there are others that are so the time thing is a bit of a smokescreen if you ask me.
I’m talking about the WFH/curfew stuff.
To be fair, this ‘U turn’ stuff is nonsense. The virus has spiked, measures need to be taken. When it dips, relax the measures. It’s happening all over the world.
This is the thing, they can't control but do need to be seen to be doing something.
I know they have inspectors, (my mates gym got inspected the first week after opening), maybe they should employ a few more, it's not like there isn't a growing army of people out of work.
Might pay for itself in the long run if it keeps places open and compliant.
The WFH/ Curfew stuff is counter productive if pubs, schools, shops stay open regardless. If you are going to be serious about stopping the spread again they can't be half arsed about it.I’m talking about the WFH/curfew stuff.
It's hard to take him seriously though, as all the leaking suggests he's doing what's popular in his party, rather than what he thinks is right.I don’t think there’s epidemiological evidence for a fair few of the decisions made to date by ours and a lot of other countries.
Let’s see, if people follow the rules (in particular the piling back to the house one) it might work but the country will be divided on this point. My ex is saying the curfews a load of bollocks, my best mates joking about starting at 10am and social media will be in meltdown we haven’t locked everyone in their houses
From the governments own data.
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The WFH/ Curfew stuff is counter productive if pubs, schools, shops stay open regardless. If you are going to be serious about stopping the spread again they can't be half arsed about it.
There was a confirmed case in my OH’s school. Track and trace said they didn’t need to send a year group home-but then a teacher who worked with the student has also gone home with symptoms.
You may have seen that the tests go live for the following day on line at 8pm.A primary school local to us had a year sent home as two pupils tested positive. All pupils in the class told to isolate.
One of the pupil’s mum works with my missus at a special needs school (all children there severely disabled and in the at risk category). Missus’ colleague asked if she need to isolate also.... the answer - no, keep coming to work but request a test. And so her elderly mum has to come to their house and look after the child isolating.
As an aside, she called for a test and the closest available was in mid-Wales.
It’s easy to see how it spreads. Shame on my missus’ school if there is an outbreak there and something awful happens to one of the disabled children.
A primary school local to us had a year sent home as two pupils tested positive. All pupils in the class told to isolate.
One of the pupil’s mum works with my missus at a special needs school (all children there severely disabled and in the at risk category). Missus’ colleague asked if she need to isolate also.... the answer - no, keep coming to work but request a test. And so her elderly mum has to come to their house and look after the child isolating.
As an aside, she called for a test and the closest available was in mid-Wales.
It’s easy to see how it spreads. Shame on my missus’ school if there is an outbreak there and something awful happens to one of the disabled children.
Summer camps would have been the option.Is it reasonably agreed that kids are basically invincible to this, you can't spread it following being infected and you can't pick it up twice yet?
If so couldn't you just throw a massive pox party for all the kids, supervised by adults that have recovered, then once they've got it and get better they won't be taking back to kill their grandparents?
To be fair, thats states "outbreaks" as opposed to cases......and outbreaks are far easier to track, trace & record, especially in the environments shown as, by their very definition, you have a full documented record of whos been in, out & shaking it all about.
From my experience in the boozers just this weekend, I've been drinking alongside a Mr. Mickey Mouse, Mr. Billy Nomates, Mr. C U Jimmy & Dixie Dean.....
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