David O'Day
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As you are usually wrong it's time to lump on Starmer
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As you are usually wrong it's time to lump on Starmer
Philosoraptor
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I think most of the Labour MPs have been rejected by people who vote Labour.
It seems very few people now have anything to do with political parties. The MPs have brought about their own demise with the policies they have forwarded over the last twenty or thirty years.
I think it is getting to a point now where we need to move from representational democracy to direct democracy.
shmmeee
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Can’t be PM if you aren’t an MP
shmmeee
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I think by definition none of the Labour MPs have been rejected by people who vote Labour
Direct democracy is a terrible idea. You want the country run by your Facebook feed? Running a country isn’t a job for part timers and amateurs.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I'm thinking that now there are more cases again not only are people more likely to get it but they're likely to be exposed to it by more than one source, increasing the overall viral load and thus making it harder to fight off. Plus as it inevitably seeps back into those more vulnerable groups it's going to start going up more sharply in the coming weeks. I hope I'm wrong and we don't get to the levels before but I'm preparing for some potential horrible numbers in the coming weeks and months.
fernandopartridge
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Where has this myth about Sunak being competent come from? It is an incredibly superficial. From what I can see he's got no original thought, just wedded to the same orthodoxy that saw the country in a mess before Covid.
Philosoraptor
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A good question. Just for starters I would look at the petitions for Govt and choose the one which increases Utility but des not come into conflict with ECHR.
This would be better then the Blair/Brown years straight away.
David O'Day
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Sunak is only seen as competent as he is compared to the other clowns in the cabinet. He's a lightweight. Sadly for the Tories they got rid of any one with an once of ability.
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I get very worried that every time I see Jeremy Hunt, I think now there's a leader.
David O'Day
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This the thing, in the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man with that eye hanging out of his head and with serious cataracts is king.
fernandopartridge
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Big fall in Pillar 2 tests processed. This might be the fallout from them running out of reagents etc,
Grendel
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Do you think the shadow chancellor looks competent - she’s hardly Nigel Lawson or Gordon Brown and between Sunak and her I’d know who I’d choose
Philosoraptor
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I read somewhere that deaths were increasing by 6% a day over last month. Very steady figure. Seems local lockdowns have done nothing to push this figure down but just try to hold the virus at bay for as long as possible.
skybluetony176
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In comparison to the PM and the rest of the cabinet it can’t be a difficult task to look competent.
fernandopartridge
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Classic whataboutery. The answer is no I don't, as I've said before. I was talking about Sunak
David O'Day
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Don't talk politics with Grenners, he's utterly clueless.
chiefdave
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This seems back to front to me. Shouldn't the numbers dictate what tier an area is in, or at the very least shouldn't this be centrally controlled and not something thats up for discussion? Council's shouldn't be having to approach the government to be moved to the most suitable tier.
Clearly want to. Act sooner rather than later but as per any decision gets hate good bad or what ever just stupid fucking politics.
fernandopartridge
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Disagree, it should always have been a local decision made locally. All central government should do is enable these decisions and provide resources for them to be enacted.
Philosoraptor
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This is from the BBC a day ago.
"We're on track to have 100 deaths a day in next week or so, that's very much tracing some of those worst case scenarios, if the outbreak's increasing it doesn't bode well for November/December," said Dr Adam Kucharski, from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the modelling group that feeds advice to Sage, told me.
Today (Tuesday), we had 143 deaths...
According to the statistics, the worst case scenarios involve the deaths of over 120 000
The person who chaired the report said:
"This is not a prediction - but it is a possibility.
"The modelling suggests that deaths could be higher with a new wave of Covid-19 this winter.
"But the risk of this happening could be reduced if we take action immediately."
I know a few weeks back this report was being followed slightly mocked by some people on Twiter filling out the difference between the predicted and actual information.
I'm going to have a look around Twitter to see if this information is still being done.
"We're on track to have 100 deaths a day in next week or so, that's very much tracing some of those worst case scenarios, if the outbreak's increasing it doesn't bode well for November/December," said Dr Adam Kucharski, from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the modelling group that feeds advice to Sage, told me.
Covid-19: Are we still listening to the science?
Sage and Prof Chris Whitty appear at odds with the political decisions made by government.
www.bbc.co.uk
Today (Tuesday), we had 143 deaths...
According to the statistics, the worst case scenarios involve the deaths of over 120 000
Winter wave of coronavirus 'could be worse than first'
Modelling suggests there could be a deadly second peak, killing more than 100,000 people in the UK.
www.bbc.co.uk
The person who chaired the report said:
"This is not a prediction - but it is a possibility.
"The modelling suggests that deaths could be higher with a new wave of Covid-19 this winter.
"But the risk of this happening could be reduced if we take action immediately."
I know a few weeks back this report was being followed slightly mocked by some people on Twiter filling out the difference between the predicted and actual information.
I'm going to have a look around Twitter to see if this information is still being done.
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Philosoraptor
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I can't find what I am looking for but it does look like Greater Manchester and Lancashire will be going into Level 3 Lockdown tomorrow (Wednesday) as well.
It does make it sound like the government is doing stuff whilst the virus is growing to a point where people are dropping like flies all over the country.
It does make it sound like the government is doing stuff whilst the virus is growing to a point where people are dropping like flies all over the country.
Philosoraptor
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Oh, this is back on the TV.
Skybluefaz
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Ffs
Sky Blue Pete
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Makes no sense. Probably safer outside that inside
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They can still get slaughtered anyway, they just need to buy a pasty and chips!
chiefdave
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It was impossible to predict something like that would happen if you give people 48 hours lockdown notice,
Skybluefaz
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And force them all out at the same time? Yeah who could see it coming.
David O'Day
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And throwing in a non staggered early closing time? Yeah who could of foreseen them all out on the streets at the same time.
Philosoraptor
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Oh for fuck sake Northern Ireland, close all non-essential businesses before closing schools. Bunch of right wing assholes.
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tbf, schools seem the major centre of transmission.
Skybluefaz
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Fucking hell