I love how everyone seem to know everyone's pay and have intimate knowledge of the wage structure.
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Stokes going the same way as reda with his injuries unfortunately. Looks like he got a bad injury in the last home game so he probably would not have made it back for the beginning of next season
True but One thing we do know is the budget will be cut. Make your assumptions from there.
We sign new players?
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I don't disagree - but turnover shouldn't drop significantly, the difference between PL payments, etc between L1+2 aren't as much as between L1 and Championship, if he Wingy's right and thre wage bill this season is £2.1m then I would guess another £200-300k cut leaving £1.8-1.9m. But we have people plucking figures out of the air of what people have been offered, etc. And someone saying that very few players were paid more than 66% league one average basic wage last season - it just doesn't stack upTrue but One thing we do know is the budget will be cut. Make your assumptions from there.
Its not stable releasing half your squad per se - but this is what happens in league one and two. I don't think Bigi will stay but I think Thomas will.Yes of course but hardly stable is it. They are two good players in Thomas and bigi. I personally would like them both to stay.
A 1.5m budget doesn't get you a lot.
So we offer players 1.5k a week. That isn't a lot these days. That is just over 75k a year. Just the players on the pitch takes over half the budget. Then you have the subs. So you have 18 players @ 75k. That takes 1,350,000 of your budget. You can have 2 more players to cover injuries. Does anyone think we could do a full season with 20 players?
Decent strikers can command more money. We could do with two of them. So we need an average wage of 1k a week average. 52k a year. This would give you a squad of 30 players. For each player on 75k you need a player on £500 a week.
The only good thing is that 1.5m is still a decent budget in Division 4. It just needs to be spent wisely.
The selling point would be if he stayed for next season, ended up coming up with that mythical 20 goals a season, his negotiating hand would be a lot stronger to get the move he wanted.Would love to see G Thomas stay but it's nailed on he will go as soon as a shite championship or decent League 1 team offer him a spot on the bench for 2/3k a week. Shame as think his game would of come on along under Robins.
Haynes 1st to Tweet a cryptic message? Could be on his way? Could be given another chance?
1.5k a week is double the league average nearly I think
Its not stable releasing half your squad per se - but this is what happens in league one and two. I don't think Bigi will stay but I think Thomas will.
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Another fact from Knowl:
2016/17
With Haynes
W 9 D 6 L 9
Without Haynes
W 8 D 9 L 18
Another fact from Knowl:
2016/17
With Haynes
W 9 D 6 L 9
Without Haynes
W 8 D 9 L 18
Pedantic but, it is a fact. Too many variables to state it as cause and effect ;-)Far too many variables to state this as fact.
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True it is a fact but it isn't Haynes plays = we will always do better.Pedantic but, it is a fact. Too many variables to state it as cause and effect ;-)
Another fact from Knowl:
2016/17
With Haynes
W 9 D 6 L 9
Without Haynes
W 8 D 9 L 18
Glad to see the back of Kyel Reid if this is true. Far, far too inconsistent and a bad signing. Gadzhev too. Another bad signing. Think the clue to him being picked of late was in Robins revealing that 12 players are injured.The Telegraph understands that out of his senior squad only George Thomas, Gael Bigirimana , Ruben Lameiras and Dion Kelly-Evans have been, or are set to be, offered fresh terms with the Sky Blues.
Those understood to be leaving are defenders Kevin Foley, Nathan Clarke, Ryan Haynes and Chris Stokes, midfielders Vlad Gadzhev and Andy Rose , striker Marcus Tudgay and goalkeeper Lee Burge.
We have limited funds he was injured for the major part of this season and again got injured we need someone who can play every game hopefully whip quality balls in the box and be quick Stokes is at present none of those, Haynes may well have been offered a new deal and turned it down hence the reason he is going too.I can't get my head round Stokes going. Good LBs are hard to find. Unless he has already been offered a deal somewhere else.
If the rumours of turning down cash for Lameiras in January are true then at 22 years old this has got to be just to make him eligible for compensation, surely? Even 50k comp would pay an above average L2 footballer plus whatever we'd save on his own salary (which is pretty low I'd guess and is therefore not a huge risk should he chooses to sign it)Glad to see the back of Kyel Reid if this is true. Far, far too inconsistent and a bad signing. Gadzhev too. Another bad signing. Think the clue to him being picked of late was in Robins revealing that 12 players are injured.
Lameiras staying does leave me scratching my head.
Be interesting to see if Bigi and Thomas accept and stay.
Sad to see Stokes go, but not so much Haynes.
He was too good for Forest Green and didn't play at the end. Too good for us, and didn't play at the end.
Wondering if there's a general fitness issue or something?
Don't get me wrong, I'd keep him.Maybe so. I guess we can ill afford to carry injury prone players.
This is why I can't understand not offering Haynes a deal. If we offered him a nominal contract, someone will come in anyway and take him - we'd get compo for himIf the rumours of turning down cash for Lameiras in January are true then at 22 years old this has got to be just to make him eligible for compensation, surely? Even 50k comp would pay an above average L2 footballer plus whatever we'd save on his own salary (which is pretty low I'd guess and is therefore not a huge risk should he chooses to sign it)
If the rumours of turning down cash for Lameiras in January are true then at 22 years old this has got to be just to make him eligible for compensation, surely? Even 50k comp would pay an above average L2 footballer plus whatever we'd save on his own salary (which is pretty low I'd guess and is therefore not a huge risk should he chooses to sign it)
I don't get the worry over George Thomas, for 3/4 of the season he was woeful. Luckily he peaked at around the time Wembley was coming up, and luckily rode that wave.
He shown much improvement under Robins and to an extent towards the end of The Slade era. I doubt he'll be going anywhere. Against Peterborough he could have easily had 2/3 more. His finishing isn't quite there and teams won't sign 9 goal strikers who just work hard.
FWIW I think League 2 will be his level, up until recently he only looked good against them teams
There's 2 compensation types: Where a professional player, under the age of 24, has been offered a new contract by his club (subject to certain requirements that the offer must meet set out in Rule 64.3 of the Football League Rules) and he rejects that offer in order to take up the opportunity to sign for another club, compensation will be payable. This is not to be confused with training compensation under the EPPP regime (that applies to Academy players), an entirely different proposition.Doesn't he have to have been in our academy for compensation?
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