Do you want to discuss boring politics? (28 Viewers)

[Deleted member 4439]

You think?? Can’t imagine anyone actually watching it.

Plenty watched The Uncivil War, and that was a tripe.

 

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[clint van damme]

Not sure if this is true or not but I’ve heard it suggested that a guy from the collapsed trial who then went on to be jailed over phone tapping I think was employed by Coulson upon his release.

I don't know if it was Coulson who employed him but it is true

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Another clip which doesn't surprise me, but is still pretty horrifying.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Can we not arrange transport to Gaza for them to join the jihad? Happy to chip in.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Another clip which doesn't surprise me, but is still pretty horrifying.

What tanks do the Palestine’s have? He’s a lunatic

 

[shmmeee]

Did he say philistine?

 

[SBAndy]

Did he say philistine?

I heard that as well.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What tanks do the Palestine’s have? He’s a lunatic

I mean, that take is like watching porn and commenting on the story plot points.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I mean, that take is like watching porn and commenting on the story plot points.

Ok he’s just a lunatic

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I see there are plans to bring the national rail network under public control.

Funny really, because I'm pretty sure just a few years ago that the very same party considered it a batshit crazy, unaffordable, leftie socialist piece of nonsense...

Large parts of British rail to be nationalised as part of sweeping Tory reforms

The London Economic - Boris Johnson said ‘this Government will deliver a rail system the country can be proud of’ - News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[PVA]

It's OK, nothing to see here, I'm sure Grendel will find a way to attack the author and ignore the content of the story..

Bank suspended Matt Hancock's PPE deal payments fearing 'VIPs' could be fraud

The Government's bank were concerned about the level of due diligence being performed by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) before millions in PPE deals were handed to 'VIP' contacts

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The perverse fact is that most viewers will be Labour Party supporters.

If I want to see button mushrooms I’ll watch Masterchef

 

[Skybluefaz]

I see there are plans to bring the national rail network under private control.

Funny really, because I'm pretty sure just a few years ago that the very same party considered it a batshit crazy, unaffordable, leftie socialist piece of nonsense...

Large parts of British rail to be nationalised as part of sweeping Tory reforms

The London Economic - Boris Johnson said ‘this Government will deliver a rail system the country can be proud of’ - News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Sounds like a weird halfway house though. Basically they are putting flags on it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I see there are plans to bring the national rail network under private control.

Funny really, because I'm pretty sure just a few years ago that the very same party considered it a batshit crazy, unaffordable, leftie socialist piece of nonsense...

Large parts of British rail to be nationalised as part of sweeping Tory reforms

The London Economic - Boris Johnson said ‘this Government will deliver a rail system the country can be proud of’ - News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

I guarantee some will come along and say ‘see this is why Labour are shit’

 

[skybluetony176]

It's OK, nothing to see here, I'm sure Grendel will find a way to attack the author and ignore the content of the story..

Bank suspended Matt Hancock's PPE deal payments fearing 'VIPs' could be fraud

The Government's bank were concerned about the level of due diligence being performed by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) before millions in PPE deals were handed to 'VIP' contacts

www.mirror.co.uk

Dub poetry is pretentious anyway

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Sounds like a weird halfway house though. Basically they are putting flags on it.

I've now become so cynical my take is that the infrastructure needs massive investment, so bring it back under public control, get the work done on the public purse and then flog it back to the private sector all shiny and new at a fraction of the price it cost.

Nationalise the costs. Privatise the profits.

 

[chiefdave]

Sounds like a weird halfway house though. Basically they are putting flags on it.

The cynic in me thinks this is a good way to pass taxpayers money to their mates.

 

[chiefdave]

More performative nonsense.

 

[Skybluefaz]

More performative nonsense.

Proper David Brent.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I see there are plans to bring the national rail network under public control.

Funny really, because I'm pretty sure just a few years ago that the very same party considered it a batshit crazy, unaffordable, leftie socialist piece of nonsense...

Large parts of British rail to be nationalised as part of sweeping Tory reforms

The London Economic - Boris Johnson said ‘this Government will deliver a rail system the country can be proud of’ - News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

You’re not wrong, but Labour also planned to nationalise more than just the rails (broadband, public services, utilities etc.) and frankly, the electorate didn’t find its proposals credible.


The Conservatives have completely outflanked Labour on even the economy. Nationalisation of the rails was a popular policy even among Tory voters and members!

 

[oakey]

You’re not wrong, but Labour also planned to nationalise more than just the rails (broadband, public services, utilities etc.) and frankly, the electorate didn’t find its proposals credible.


The Conservatives have completely outflanked Labour on even the economy. Nationalisation of the rails was a popular policy even among Tory voters and members!

Maybe people like Labour ideas but not Labour people.
Maybe people won't vote for everyone having free stuff (Labour) but will vote for some people / places having free stuff (Tories)

 

[PVA]

Maybe people like Labour ideas but not Labour people.
Maybe people won't vote for everyone having free stuff (Labour) but will vote for some people / places having free stuff (Tories)

There is definitely an attitude in this country of not wanting free stuff for yourself because you don't want other people to have free stuff.

People put a priority on making sure others don't get free stuff, even at the expense of themselves getting it.

 

[shmmeee]

Maybe people like Labour ideas but not Labour people.
Maybe people won't vote for everyone having free stuff (Labour) but will vote for some people / places having free stuff (Tories)

People like individual policies in isolation but that’s not the same as liking the program as a whole and trusting the people proposing it to deliver.

 

[shmmeee]

There is definitely an attitude in this country of not wanting free stuff for yourself because you don't want other people to have free stuff.

People put a priority on making sure others don't get free stuff, even at the expense of themselves getting it.

If you listen to what a lot of people say it’s “why are we giving it to X when we haven’t all had it” rather than “no one should have it”. That’s why the gammon memes are always “an asylum seeker gets X but a pensioner only gets Y”.

There Is a definite crab bucket mentality though. See Nick every time someone suggests working conditions or remuneration should be improved.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You’re not wrong, but Labour also planned to nationalise more than just the rails (broadband, public services, utilities etc.) and frankly, the electorate didn’t find its proposals credible.


The Conservatives have completely outflanked Labour on even the economy. Nationalisation of the rails was a popular policy even among Tory voters and members!

First time round it was the railways. 2019 Corbyn went a bit mad.

 

[wingy]

I've now become so cynical my take is that the infrastructure needs massive investment, so bring it back under public control, get the work done on the public purse and then flog it back to the private sector all shiny and new at a fraction of the price it cost.

Nationalise the costs. Privatise the profits.

What like all the New and improved stations from the last time.

 

[chiefdave]

There is definitely an attitude in this country of not wanting free stuff for yourself because you don't want other people to have free stuff.

People put a priority on making sure others don't get free stuff, even at the expense of themselves getting it.

There was a discussion on moving to a 4 day week on Radio 4 - this was pre-pandemic. One of the economists on there was from a Nordic country, can't remember which one, and couldn't get his head round why people were against improving things for others if they didn't directly benefit.

We had it on here recently with the discussion on WFH post covid. Some of those who have jobs where they can't WFH weren't happy that some peoples work / life balance (hate that phrase) might improve.

 

[chiefdave]

This isn't the Labour, or Corbyn, nationalise the railways plan anyway is it? This seems more like the taxpayer foots the bill for decades of under investment by franchisees but private companies still pocket the money just that they're now under a GBR branding rather than their individual companies.

I'd be amazed if this doesn't end up with more taxpayer money being handed over.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

People like individual policies in isolation but that’s not the same as liking the program as a whole and trusting the people proposing it to deliver.

Indeed. Best just to vote for guaranteed crap than dare be an optimist.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There was a discussion on moving to a 4 day week on Radio 4 - this was pre-pandemic. One of the economists on there was from a Nordic country, can't remember which one, and couldn't get his head round why people were against improving things for others if they didn't directly benefit.

We had it on here recently with the discussion on WFH post covid. Some of those who have jobs where they can't WFH weren't happy that some peoples work / life balance (hate that phrase) might improve.

I've wondered for a while why we don't have two people both working three and a half days each as opposed to 1 person doing a 5 day week.

Similarly why we don't have three 8 hour shift patterns rather than a 9-5 ethos and then most things shut. In this day and age with global trade, technology and a much less prevalent religious reasoning I don't see why we don't have a 24/7 economy.

 

[Grendel]

I've wondered for a while why we don't have two people both working three and a half days each as opposed to 1 person doing a 5 day week.

Similarly why we don't have three 8 hour shift patterns rather than a 9-5 ethos and then most things shut. In this day and age with global trade, technology and a much less prevalent religious reasoning I don't see why we don't have a 24/7 economy.

Is this a serious post?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Is this a serious post?

Yep. Remember the arguments over Sunday trading? Same idea. Only thing people could argue against it was it was different to what they were used to and religion.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There was a discussion on moving to a 4 day week on Radio 4 - this was pre-pandemic. One of the economists on there was from a Nordic country, can't remember which one, and couldn't get his head round why people were against improving things for others if they didn't directly benefit.

We had it on here recently with the discussion on WFH post covid. Some of those who have jobs where they can't WFH weren't happy that some peoples work / life balance (hate that phrase) might improve.

Because invariably most WFH jobs are middle class or above.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Israel approves Gaza ceasefire to halt 11-day conflict

Netanyahu’s office announces ‘mutual and simultaneous’ truce

www.theguardian.com

 

[wingy]

Macron!
Trying to restrict filming or images of police when doing their Dodgy shit. twat.