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skybluetony176

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And people say they have no solutions to the cost of living crisis...


Would it surprise anyone one if it turned out he has a consultancy job lined up with Russel Hobbs.

Anyway. I checked it out after seeing this and apparently the most cost effective way to boil a litre of water is on a hob with a hob kettle so long as it isn’t an induction hob, if it’s an induction hob it’s the most expensive which surprised me as I thought induction hobs were more energy efficient. Either way you’re talking about percentages of a penny to boil a litre of water. So in the big scheme of things the advice isn’t worth a wank.
 

Ian1779

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On the M6 it would be pointless until you get to Cumbria. M25, pointless exercise, M1, pointless exercise etc etc. struggling to think of a motorway other than the M45 where it would work other than in small stretches.
M5 between Taunton and Exeter I reckon…
 
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On motorways in certain areas that actually makes sense
It makes no sense if the Government meant all the stuff they said at the COP conference. Oh but the environment doesn't matter now that's over. Same with green levies on gas bills. No need to be consistent or think of the bigger picture when you're looking for votes. Welcome to the world of Liz Truss.
 
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Still, at least we're not Argentinian politics! Talk about a lucky escape!

 

Sky Blue Pete

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Would prefer to pay money rather than pay in lives so agree with support for Ukraine

How much have we given in terms of money in military support?

What cost is there to do similar in the utility market at the point in the provision that would make a difference
 

clint van damme

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Would prefer to pay money rather than pay in lives so agree with support for Ukraine

How much have we given in terms of money in military support?

What cost is there to do similar in the utility market at the point in the provision that would make a difference

Johnson to the public - youb need to feel the pain of increased fuel bills to help defeat putin,buy a kettle.

Johnson to the energy companies - fuck the war, carry on profiteering!
 

skybluetony176

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Johnson to the public - youb need to feel the pain of increased fuel bills to help defeat putin,buy a kettle.

Johnson to the energy companies - fuck the war, carry on profiteering!
Exactly this. Looks like I’m giving a large proportion of my savings to energy companies this winter so they can keep posting record profits while paying out huge bonuses to CEO’s and dividends to shareholders. #levellingup
 

chiefdave

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The problem is that even if they bin her off in a few months there's nobody waiting in the wings. Sunaks campaign has really exposed him and might play well to some of the party faithful, but obv not enough for him to win, but some of the things he's been coming out with surely would give him not chance of winning a general election.

Or is this all being lined up for Boris to make. triumphant return? Wasn't the accepted wisdom that he would ride off into the sunset with lots of cushy high earning journalism and after dinner speaking jobs?
 
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CCFCSteve

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Bit of expectation management here, or is that too much to hope?



We can only hope for two things. Firstly, she’s been bullshitting the members and when reality bites, will follow more sensible policy. Secondly, she builds a cabinet/team of competent people around herself and not just the crazies

If she tries to be Johnson mk 2 and only has supporters in her inner circle we are royally fucked
 

fernandopartridge

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We can only hope for two things. Firstly, she’s been bullshitting the members and when reality bites, will follow more sensible policy. Secondly, she builds a cabinet/team of competent people around herself and not just the crazies

If she tries to be Johnson mk 2 and only has supporters in her inner circle we are royally fucked
You still don't get it. The Tory party does not have competents it has proper neocons concernes only with enriching themselves and their donors. It is a rotten institution that needs to be destroyed.

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You still don't get it. The Tory party does not have competents it has proper neocons concernes only with enriching themselves and their donors. It is a rotten institution that needs to be destroyed.

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There aren't many (any?) competent ones but some are crazier than others. I fear she's going to go for the crazier ones.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Wtaf is going to happen?

Hospitals
Care homes
Pensioners
Those on benefits
Schools

Absolute car crash stuff

James O’Brien did a segment saying we are close to being a failed state. I think that’s a bit extreme but he isn’t far away with how things could get if competent leadership isn’t installed urgently.
 

chiefdave

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James O’Brien did a segment saying we are close to being a failed state. I think that’s a bit extreme but he isn’t far away with how things could get if competent leadership isn’t installed urgently.
How far off are we really?

We don't have a working healthcare system, the police are so understaffed they can't respond to anything. Who is going to be paying the massive heating bills in the care system which is now all privately run? Anyone relying on their state pension or benefits is going to really struggle this winter. Inflation is out of control and they seem to have no answer past telling people not to get pay rises and putting interest rates up to make things even worse for people.

We can't get enough staff for various industries, we're struggling with imports and exports due to paperwork and logistical issues.

No idea about education but I can't imagine that's great given the state of everything else.

We seem to constantly lurch from one 'once in a generation' crisis to the next.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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How far off are we really?

We don't have a working healthcare system, the police are so understaffed they can't respond to anything. Who is going to be paying the massive heating bills in the care system which is now all privately run? Anyone relying on their state pension or benefits is going to really struggle this winter. Inflation is out of control and they seem to have no answer past telling people not to get pay rises and putting interest rates up to make things even worse for people.

We can't get enough staff for various industries, we're struggling with imports and exports due to paperwork and logistical issues.

No idea about education but I can't imagine that's great given the state of everything else.

We seem to constantly lurch from one 'once in a generation' crisis to the next.

In education you have recruitment targets for new teachers being missed by a frightening amount, and retention remains so poor that 40% leave within 5 years. Which means that at a time when really you need more staff than ever before, you’re actually losing them at if anything a greater rate.
 

chiefdave

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In education you have recruitment targets for new teachers being missed by a frightening amount, and retention remains so poor that 40% leave within 5 years. Which means that at a time when really you need more staff than ever before, you’re actually losing them at if anything a greater rate.
the same story as healthcare then really, and I'm guessing the same lack of a plan past vague announcements to increase recruitment.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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the same story as healthcare then really, and I'm guessing the same lack of a plan past vague announcements to increase recruitment.

I’ve seen half hearted efforts to get retired teachers back in, not much else. And to be honest as I’ve written elsewhere I’m actively looking for a route out of the profession even if it means less job security. Just want more of my life back.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I’ve seen half hearted efforts to get retired teachers back in, not much else. And to be honest as I’ve written elsewhere I’m actively looking for a route out of the profession even if it means less job security. Just want more of my life back.
We've spent over a generation telling people the metric of success is how much money and stuff you've got. Now we can't find people who want to do jobs which aren't particularly highly paid and much of the rewards are intangible as it's based on providing a service and helping people rather than enriching yourself. Who'da thunk it?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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We've spent over a generation telling people the metric of success is how much money and stuff you've got. Now we can't find people who want to do jobs which aren't particularly highly paid and much of the rewards are intangible as it's based on providing a service and helping people rather than enriching yourself. Who'da thunk it?

It relies on a lot of goodwill, but when that translates to a 60 hour working week for both of us to manage the workload, if somebody offers you far better work life balance in exchange for a bit less money, yeah I’ll take it.
 

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