This is of the back of a Facebook smear campaign against the Labour candidate. Long story short the Labour candidate was part of the local healthcare management that had to decide what services were cut under austerity forced upon them by the Conservatives. In this post truth world Facebook adds were saying that the Labour candidate cut services not services cut after funding cut by the Conservative government. In this post truth world it gained traction, people heard what they wanted to hear and voted Tory. Not sure it changed the overall outcome though.
Bloody hell. Another one to go with the bloke yesterday who says he's had enough of Labour because there were no foodbanks under them, but 9 under the tories. This guy blames Labour for no hospitals being built.
What fucking chance do Labour, or anyone, have when people have views like this
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Nothing from the interviewer to challenge this. Challenging this rubbish is not being disrespectful, or condescending - it’s just pointing out facts.Bloody hell. Another one to go with the bloke yesterday who says he's had enough of Labour because there were no foodbanks under them, but 9 under the tories. This guy blames Labour for no hospitals being built.
What fucking chance do Labour, or anyone, have when people have views like this
How much value do any of those 'brands' have anymore? Is there a discussion to be had to merging all three under a new name to try and lose some of the baggage.
Very drastic but I can't see any sign of a Labour resurgence anytime soon and the Lub Dem and Greens are firmly on the sidelines.
Yes, and from listening to radio 4 just now, apparently KS is a white privileged man dumping on the female and northern fraternity, rather than perhaps being concerned that Angela Raynor's brand of aggressive sniping and negativity might have put a few off. I'm afraid any change in the Labour party is going to be a long time coming.
Was it a a Labour MP/activist making that comment - or is that just your assumption. Could quite have easily been a Tory making that statement.Going to take a few more decimations in elections to get the point home to many of these people , I fear
Was it a a Labour MP/activist making that comment - or is that just your assumption. Could quite have easily been a Tory making that statement.
This is what we are dealing with total crackpot left,She’ll realise when she gets in the real world!!There is stupid everywhere View attachment 20027
Was it a a Labour MP/activist making that comment - or is that just your assumption. Could quite have easily been a Tory making that statement.
Oh you’ve arisen, how was your Sunday last week o’drivel?Why debate with that crackpot
I suppose the guy in the Hartlepool video was spot on as well yeah?This is what we are dealing with total crackpot left,She’ll realise when she gets in the real world!!
True - leave that populism bollocks to the right.I doubt it but would never say never .
Identity politics are normally a left wing obsession
Was it a a Labour MP/activist making that comment - or is that just your assumption. Could quite have easily been a Tory making that statement.
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Probably thinking that Brexit is done so leave/remain status of an individual should not matter. Which it shouldn't now. The error is probably not making that clear enough from a Labour party perspective. Brexit is done now let's try and move on and make things better.Labour are thick,Why didn’t they put a pro brexit candidate in Hartlepool?
Pretty thick really, just shows how far apart they are from the working man and us baby boomers who’ve realised they are controlled still by momentum and their idealistic crap.
Get in a room and sort it out get rid of the left that’s the only way you’ll ever get in power.
Bite the bullet and be more centrist otherwise it’s oblivion I’m afraid with all the in fighting.
Like I said get all in a room and sort it out,Politics needs a strong opposition that is together and is singing from the same hymn sheet.Probably thinking that Brexit is done so leave/remain status of an individual should not matter. Which it shouldn't now. The error is probably not making that clear enough from a Labour party perspective. Brexit is done now let's try and move on and make things better.
What does be more centrist mean?Labour are thick,Why didn’t they put a pro brexit candidate in Hartlepool?
Pretty thick really, just shows how far apart they are from the working man and us baby boomers who’ve realised they are controlled still by momentum and their idealistic crap.
Get in a room and sort it out get rid of the left that’s the only way you’ll ever get in power.
Bite the bullet and be more centrist otherwise it’s oblivion I’m afraid with all the in fighting.
More towards the middle,Less left wing?
How far Labour have fallen if the working class reject them for tories.
Chirpy chirpy cheap cheap/Middle of the road a bit of both.
If Labour don’t change they’ll always be a protest party in opposition.
Labour can’t win without the left being on board. That’s a fact.Like I said get all in a room and sort it out,Politics needs a strong opposition that is together and is singing from the same hymn sheet.
Shame, they’ll never govern again then imo.Labour can’t win without the left being on board. That’s a fact.
May well be the case, but seeing as they have already lost Scotland forever, as well as half of Wales they don’t have a choice.Shame, they’ll never govern again then imo.
ID cards should be used
My grandad was a miner at Binley pit,He’d never have voted for Corbyn and his like but I feel they need a figure like Burnham to get the party together and realise there’s life outside the big cities.
Looool being too left wing cost them with Corbyn, some people will never learnLabour can’t win without the left being on board. That’s a fact.
ID cards should be used
Not backing Brexit is ultimately what cost them - a lot of their policies are generally popular.Looool being too left wing cost them with Corbyn, some people will never learn
Bullshit, why’s it such a problem about proving you’re identity.....always making excusesWhy? Are you suggesting some irregularity with the tories recent election successes?
There's no need and they'll just outsource it to one of their grifting mates like they did with track and trace, at huge expense to the tax payer.
ID cards should be used
Bullshit, why’s it such a problem about proving you’re identity.....always making excuses
Cry some more, tories are here to stayNo they shouldn't.
It stops people voting. Of course the Tories want to introduce it though.
What next in their quest for dictatorship I wonder.
I genuinely don’t understand why proving you’re identity is wrong thoIt's been a long established voter suppression tactic in the US
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