England - Lee Carsley Era (2 Viewers)

Evo1883

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Is it too early to say that Lee carsleys England aren't really inspiring me , we look pretty awful
 

alexccfc99

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We look so bloody easy to play against… this is what the people wanted as opposed to what we had before tho🤷‍♂️
 

Evo1883

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We look so bloody easy to play against… this is what the people wanted as opposed to what we had before tho🤷‍♂️
Is it ? We couldn't carry on with Gareth

Whatever this is nobody asked for , we had a good 1st half against Ireland and that's it
 

alexccfc99

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Is it ? We couldn't carry on with Gareth

Whatever this is nobody asked for , we had a good 1st half against Ireland and that's it
People were bemoaning the fact we were too conservative - When in international football you have to be a bit conservative as in the end game you are playing football where you are potentially a defeat away from elimination

We look worryingly open and I don’t think we were all that in the last break other than the first half against Ireland as you said

This is what people wanted tho, they demanded attack minded open football
 

ccfcchris

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People were bemoaning the fact we were too conservative - When in international football you have to be a bit conservative as in the end game you are playing football where you are potentially a defeat away from elimination

We look worryingly open and I don’t think we were all that in the last break other than the first half against Ireland as you said

This is what people wanted tho, they demanded attack minded open football
I think we want something in the middle.
 

stupot07

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That was shite. Carsley has obviously thought, "hang on, our striker who spends most of his time in centre mid is injured, I know, I will play a centre mid as the striker."

It's all too narrow, no one is stretching play. Saka is often tucked inside, which is fine if you have an overlapping full back bit both fullbacks want to play in centre mid, so there's no width too.

Itv just showing a clip of Trent all the way over in left midfield next to Lewis. There's no structure. In fact most of the chance Greece have had Trent has been nowhere near right back.
 

Evo1883

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People were bemoaning the fact we were too conservative - When in international football you have to be a bit conservative as in the end game you are playing football where you are potentially a defeat away from elimination

We look worryingly open and I don’t think we were all that in the last break other than the first half against Ireland as you said

This is what people wanted tho, they demanded attack minded open football
You don't have to be conservative though ,Spain for example won the euros playing attacking and so did Italy
 

stupot07

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Playing a false 9 is fine, if you have lots of runners making runs in behind you, but Foden, Cole, Saka and Gordon want the ball facing goal to run with it
 

no_loyalty

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One day England might play to their strengths with entertaining attacking free flowing football.
 

stupot07

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Cole Palmer in the CDM making a covering tackle as Greece break whilst Lewis and Trent are in the box
 

alexccfc99

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You don't have to be conservative though ,Spain for example won the euros playing attacking and so did Italy
Tbh whether you like Southgate or not, there was not a fat lot wrong with what England were doing, granted we probably needed a bit more tactical nous and in game management to get us over the line but we were so close

We just seem to have needlessly ripped that up and gone back to the drawing board when in my opinion we didn’t need to
 

Evo1883

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Tbh whether you like Southgate or not, there was not a fat lot wrong with what England were doing, granted we probably needed a bit more tactical nous and in game management to get us over the line but we were so close

We just seem to have needlessly ripped that up and gone back to the drawing board when in my opinion we didn’t need to
We were shite IMHO, I get you went to watch them but he just had no clue how to win big matches in general .
The holland game was the only outlier there in a tournament where we were fucking woeful

Anyway he's gone
 

alexccfc99

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We were shite IMHO, I get you went to watch them but he just had no clue how to win big matches in general .
The holland game was the only outlier there in a tournament where we were fucking woeful

Anyway he's gone
He got us to two finals - Hence why we didn’t need to go back to the drawing board and as I said, we just needed a bit more tactical know how to get us over the line as opposed to completely ripping up the system
 

Evo1883

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He got us to two finals - Hence why we didn’t need to go back to the drawing board and as I said, we just needed a bit more tactical know how to get us over the line as opposed to completely ripping up the system

A lot of luck ,.we couldn't carry on playing like that , we should have been beaten well before the final in the last tournament .

No top sides play like England and win things
 

alexccfc99

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A lot of luck ,.we couldn't carry on playing like that , we should have been beaten well before the final in the last tournament .

No top sides play like England and win things
You don’t get to finals on luck

Should have gone all in for Tuchel or Poch but our fans and press wouldn’t have ever took to them cause of two wars that happened last century
 

stupot07

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We are so fucking narrow and have nothing upfront. Again Palmer and Foden having to make tackles deep to stop a counter attack, when the 2 full backs are virtually up front.
 

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