Paul Anthony
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Apparently it's a bit of a trade off. They seem able to follow better in the corners, but the slipstream effect on the straights has been reduced.
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Apparently it's a bit of a trade off. They seem able to follow better in the corners, but the slipstream effect on the straights has been reduced.
Paul Anthony
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Could be a long season for McLaren.
Paul Anthony
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Made up for Leclerc, redemption for that engine failure here a couple of years ago.
olderskyblue
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Max a very angry man. Berating his team even though he had gone faster after the pit stop. No class ….. 
Paul Anthony
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Maybe a different opinion to others, I don't think Mercedes are as far behind as it seemed. A lot of that time was lost on a bad strategy running the hards that nobody else touched, thats a lot of time per lap. They're cleary not on the pace of Red Bull or Ferrari, but if they'd run the same strategy I don't think they'd have been a million miles behind. Work to do certainly, but you'd back them to sort it eventually.
Saddlebrains
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FORZA FERRARI 
Stated many a time they're my favourite team and boy is it good to see them back at the front
Great race, i give it 3 or 4 races and Mercedes will be back there
Horners pissing blood i bet
Stated many a time they're my favourite team and boy is it good to see them back at the front
Great race, i give it 3 or 4 races and Mercedes will be back there
Horners pissing blood i bet
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987
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Good to see the cars can follow better - more race long wheel to wheel nose to tail battles for the victory to come hopefully
It's crazy for F1 to be there in the first place, but a probable drone missile strike on an Aramco site (are they not sponsoring this race btw?) less than 10 miles from the track only causes a 15 minute delay to FP2 and then F1 carries on like nothing has happened. I think if one driver decides not to race then most will follow.
Saddlebrains
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Can see it being called off for that reason.
One stands up the rest will follow.
Over to you Sir Lewis, you always preach about making statements against oppression etc, the floor is yours.....
He did so earlier today and I believe Horner did too.
Paul Anthony
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Paul Anthony
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So, team bosses earlier agreed unanimously to race, but the drivers are having a meeting of their own. Seems the possibility of the race being cancelled isn't yet entirely out of the question, but realistically will any of them go against their teams wishes though? What kind of contract headaches would that cause, if the teams tell them they're racing and the drivers say no? Just can't see the drivers going back on their team bosses decision.
It's nearing 1am over there and the drivers meeting is still ongoing. Clearly there must be some push back from some drivers.
It's all well and good the Saudis saying it's only infrastructure that's being attacked - getting the F1 cancelled, or having something bad happen live in front of a couple of hundred million viewers is something that will shed so much more light on the situation so surely the race itself is likely to be a target?
It's all well and good the Saudis saying it's only infrastructure that's being attacked - getting the F1 cancelled, or having something bad happen live in front of a couple of hundred million viewers is something that will shed so much more light on the situation so surely the race itself is likely to be a target?
Paul Anthony
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Well, given the place they attacked is title sponsor of both the race itself and Aston Martin, I'd say if they have concerns about the circuit being a target they're certainly valid.
Saddlebrains
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Pretty confident this will be cancelled
Seems Lewis and Fernando are being the main men fair fucks to them
I want a race to take place, mental track and Ferrari again look class.
But i get it, and they shouldn't have ever gone there in the first place
Seems Lewis and Fernando are being the main men fair fucks to them
I want a race to take place, mental track and Ferrari again look class.
But i get it, and they shouldn't have ever gone there in the first place
Paul Anthony
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Still ongoing, team principals have come and gone and are now going to race control it seems, drivers haven't left yet. Have to say the drivers have clearly got valid concerns, not just about themselves but for everyone at the track.
The drivers have been placed in an unenviable position here. Whatever decision is eventually made, it's going to have some huge repercussions. Not race and they embarrass the Saudis (maybe not a good thing to do whilst you're actually still there!) , lose their money, presumably the substantial Aramco sponsorship or race and risk the lives of your team mates / staff.
Obviously safety should come first, but there's no denying that backing out now is going to create a shitstorm. It's absolutely bonkers anybody thought it was a good idea to have a race here in the first place.
Obviously safety should come first, but there's no denying that backing out now is going to create a shitstorm. It's absolutely bonkers anybody thought it was a good idea to have a race here in the first place.
Paul Anthony
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Looks like the drivers are holding a press conference midnight gmt to give a verdict.
Paul Anthony
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Looks like the race goes ahead.
There is no way 20 drivers have sat there for 4 and a half hours and all come to the same conclusion. There's clearly a big split, but what has been agreed to get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet? More money? The threat of arrest / impounding machinery? There's a lot more to come out from this meeting and I think some of it may not come out until everyone is safely out the country.
Paul Anthony
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This does remind me of Indy 2005, for different reasons obviously. Just hope they've got this right, because they're taking a big risk with a lot of people's lives if they haven't.
Andrew Benson of BBC on the extra info the drivers were given that convinced them to race.
" Part of this information involved the possible consequences of not racing, such as how easily teams and drivers would be able to leave the country if the race did not happen. "
Wow. If this is the case then it's the last Saudi will see of F1. Even F1 would not be stupid enough to go back for more. Imagine the fall out if something bad were to happen in the next couple of days? It's absolutely incredible. But as I said earlier, I don't think we will get a full picture of what has gone on until everyone is safely out of the country.
If this race didn't already have a target on it's back, it sure as hell has now,
" Part of this information involved the possible consequences of not racing, such as how easily teams and drivers would be able to leave the country if the race did not happen. "
Wow. If this is the case then it's the last Saudi will see of F1. Even F1 would not be stupid enough to go back for more. Imagine the fall out if something bad were to happen in the next couple of days? It's absolutely incredible. But as I said earlier, I don't think we will get a full picture of what has gone on until everyone is safely out of the country.
If this race didn't already have a target on it's back, it sure as hell has now,
Paul Anthony
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So, are they saying they're worried if they didn't race, they'd be basically held hostage?
Paul Anthony
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If that's the case, then it's not about who wins this race or not. It's about making sure everyone who's there gets out safely.
The maddening thing is the sport will learn absolutely nothing from this. They'll be back next year because the money is more important to them that run it.
The maddening thing is the sport will learn absolutely nothing from this. They'll be back next year because the money is more important to them that run it.
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They'll be back!
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Btw, Bahrain prisoners clearly think Hamilton takes a stance and uses his influence for good.
www.theguardian.com
‘You are our champ’: Prisoner in Bahrain jail sends letter to Lewis Hamilton
An prisoner in Bahrain has written to Lewis Hamilton telling him inmates write 44 on clothes to show support
Saddlebrains
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Btw, Bahrain prisoners clearly think Hamilton takes a stance and uses his influence for good.
‘You are our champ’: Prisoner in Bahrain jail sends letter to Lewis Hamilton
An prisoner in Bahrain has written to Lewis Hamilton telling him inmates write 44 on clothes to show support
One thing Lewis can never be knocked for is his quest for equality and making public stances against immorality. Actually admire him in that to be honest