Otis
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SBT has been Gilbert's PR machine.
Fisher live on CWR.... the countdown begins. (7 Viewers)
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chiefdave
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Well the quote I'm referring to was posted on here to prove a point. It was then shown to be completely wrong and the correct information available to anyone on the trust website.
cloughie
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by we know who
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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One question that needs to be asked will Stevenson Stokes or anyone else be sold in January YES or NO.
ccfcway
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my guess is......"We dont want to sell our best players, but we cant rule out selling anyone to move the club forward"
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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We sold young player before and has the club been moved forward no take a look where we are post Wilson sale or even Maddison.
ccfcway
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Fisher BINGO !!Some predictions as to what he will say
We have to live within our means
Crowds are too small the fans need to support the team
The protests are damaging the team
We have been blocked on a number of sites but there are two under consideration but I can't tell you where it's commercially sensitive.
The club is not involved in the legal cases what the owner chooses to do is up to them
There are people of power within the city working against the club. It looks like the club is being forced out.
We must own our stadium and have access to all the incomes 24/7/365 without that we can not compete
The owner has invested 60m trying to make it work
The club is close to operating profit despite the reduced attendance, interest is payable to the owners so is not a concern. The loans are owed to the owners so really isn't proper debt as not owed to 3rd parties.
We are working hard to improve things
We are looking to replace the manager, commercial director, to bring players in.there is still some budget available.
It can't work unless the fans and decision makers get on side with us.
How can the trust bid for Ccfc its ridiculous they can't file accounts on time they don't have the money
We are working with Cov rugby to put on joint non match day events, we need 100% of the income we generate.
We only get 72k turnover at ricoh at HR we used to get over 1m
Nothing to report on the academy there have been meetings
Nothing to report on the ricoh wasps have made their position. clear.
Think that should take about an hour to waffle through
Am sure there will be people who take what is said at face value and praise him for taking part... but will he have said anything new or important anything game changing we can get behind ......
skybluedan
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Where is the cwr building its at?
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Don't want you storming the place Their a good boy. So I wont tell you its behind Sainsbury's Trinity Street branch
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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By the way if you do storm it let him in first just don't let him out.
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Can we ask him why are sisu still here when they have no intention of funding a club that can be sucesfull. What is sisu long term vision for the club and how will this be achieved with no funds from the owners
Astute
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All confidential.
I would ask him why he is such a cock if he is nothing to do with SISU as we are usually told.
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Forget that - the answer if he wanted to give one would be the one Labovitch gave, that originally it was an investment but Joy's grown to have an affection for the club and has become a fan, and wants to do the best for it, hence investing in an academy yadda yadda yadda.
The problem, of course, with events such as this is there are certain questions where he's never going to turn round and say 'hey, you got me' before spilling the beans on a dastardly plot...
olderskyblue
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Agreed.
I think any comments made will only be useful to add to the list of "lies" he tells to us...
Mind you, I do smile at how skillfully he worms his way around the real questions asked. As OSB58 has inferred, listen carefully to where he wants to direct the conversations, and then maybe take a look in the opposite direction...
I just hope the questions are filtered properly, and we don't get the "how much money do you get" rubbishy types that have zero purpose...
rupert_bear
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Still don't think it'll happen, especially if we get a bollicking for all the world to see Thursday.
Astute
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'Yellow and black Ian, yellow and black'
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Why don't you phone in Nick and give Fisher ( Quote , he needs to be grelled probably ) a good grelling , because Nick all the grelling you do on SBT I think your the Best man for the job . :rage:
Go get him Nick
Nick
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I'll have a few questions sent in, won't be able to listen to them but somebody on here will say if they get askedWhy don't you phone in Nick and give Fisher ( Quote , he needs to be grelled probably ) a good grelling , because Nick all the grelling you do on SBT I think your the Best man for the job . :rage:
Go get him Nick
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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I'll have a few questions sent in, won't be able to listen to them but somebody on here will say if they get asked
oucho
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If there is anyone out there who is waiting for this with anticipation, thinking that TF is going to either get a humiliatign grilling or will pull a rabbit out of a hat to solve all of our problems, probably should start reducing their expectations now. He has been interviewed several times and other than apportioning blame and lashing out, he has usually been short of answers (if you ignore rubbish like "SISU will batter everyone in court" and "we'll build a new stadium in three years". To be fair to him, it seems like there's little he can actually do now so I don't blame him for not being able to change things.
I was thinking today about what he hypothetically COULD say that would put me a in a good frame of mind about CCFC. And here is it:
1) no mention of any other parties e.g. Wasps, local medai, Sky Blue Trust, CCC, etc thoughout
2) state that he will advise/ has advised Joy to seek new investment, either as a partnership or with a view to SISU divesting the club
3) announce that there will be a new full time CEO based in Coventry
4) new CEO to be backed by a full time board of new Commercial Director, Finance Director, Ops Director and Football/Technical Director, all reporting to CEO but on board and company directors with TF as non-executive chair (the TD role being optional, and possible the Ops/Fin director being the same person)
5) new manager to be in post by 1st Jan 2017, with budget to bring in up to 6 experienced new players
6) Mark Venus' role to be clarified i.e. transfers only and no Ryton etc, or leave club altogether
7) Announcement of preference to sign long term mutually beneficial deal with Wasps to play at the Ricoh
8) Confirmation of intention to build a CCFC-owned training ground / academy site
9) Announce that Joy has accepted defeat in the JRs to facilitate the above two points and to allow everyone to move on
10) Announce that TF personally will leave CCFC once the above steps have been set into motion
If he says that, or even half of that, I'll give him a heap of credit.
I was thinking today about what he hypothetically COULD say that would put me a in a good frame of mind about CCFC. And here is it:
1) no mention of any other parties e.g. Wasps, local medai, Sky Blue Trust, CCC, etc thoughout
2) state that he will advise/ has advised Joy to seek new investment, either as a partnership or with a view to SISU divesting the club
3) announce that there will be a new full time CEO based in Coventry
4) new CEO to be backed by a full time board of new Commercial Director, Finance Director, Ops Director and Football/Technical Director, all reporting to CEO but on board and company directors with TF as non-executive chair (the TD role being optional, and possible the Ops/Fin director being the same person)
5) new manager to be in post by 1st Jan 2017, with budget to bring in up to 6 experienced new players
6) Mark Venus' role to be clarified i.e. transfers only and no Ryton etc, or leave club altogether
7) Announcement of preference to sign long term mutually beneficial deal with Wasps to play at the Ricoh
8) Confirmation of intention to build a CCFC-owned training ground / academy site
9) Announce that Joy has accepted defeat in the JRs to facilitate the above two points and to allow everyone to move on
10) Announce that TF personally will leave CCFC once the above steps have been set into motion
If he says that, or even half of that, I'll give him a heap of credit.
The whole thing will be a massive anti-climax where we will learn nothing new. The calls will be heavily vetted, and those that do get through will the usual band of simpletons.
What we need is a presenter willing to stick their neck out and go for Fisher's jugular - but unfortunately our local BBC journalists are about as safe as they come and take the idea of neutrality to nauseating levels. At no point over the last few years can I recall anyone from the club or the council/ACL/Wasps being properly taken to task and put under pressure by BBC CWR. Just the usual, safe, wishy-washy pretend journalism. Perhaps this time it will be different and the gloves will come off. Not holding my breath.
What we need is a presenter willing to stick their neck out and go for Fisher's jugular - but unfortunately our local BBC journalists are about as safe as they come and take the idea of neutrality to nauseating levels. At no point over the last few years can I recall anyone from the club or the council/ACL/Wasps being properly taken to task and put under pressure by BBC CWR. Just the usual, safe, wishy-washy pretend journalism. Perhaps this time it will be different and the gloves will come off. Not holding my breath.
chiefdave
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A viable plan that stands up to the slightest scrutiny would do for me.
torchomatic
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Shane O'Connor. He would be ideal. He always gave them from whatever aide a hard time.
shy_tall_knight
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Hope its clive & Stuart, Clive to be the deadpan questioner Stuart to add a bit of emotion to the proceedings, reserved and calculated emotion but believe Stuart is a genuine fan and can put Fisher on spot.
PS Tim we as fans don't care what SISU have put into the club, in life we judge success by outputs rather than inputs and 1 FA cup quarter final, a johnstones paints Northern Area final, 2 relegations, 2 administrations, countless transfer embargoes and the loss of any chance of owning the Ricoh - is pretty bad record for 9 years
PS Tim we as fans don't care what SISU have put into the club, in life we judge success by outputs rather than inputs and 1 FA cup quarter final, a johnstones paints Northern Area final, 2 relegations, 2 administrations, countless transfer embargoes and the loss of any chance of owning the Ricoh - is pretty bad record for 9 years
dongonzalos
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Anyone know where we submit questions to CWR for this event?
dongonzalos
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Most stupid decision to get rid of him
Nick
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1. Do you receive any payments and / or benefits from any company within the SISU group in regards to your post at CCFC? If no, why are you doing it?
2. For Ryton to be developed you say an "adequate replacement" needs to be provided, is this a replacement of pitches or a full training facility for CCFC?
3. You have mentioned multiple times about wanting to do an open fans forum with the trust, is this something that CWR would be able to put on and facilitate?
4. Would you rather have a vagina on your forehead, or have a row of penises down your back like a stegosaurus?
5. The SCG group seems to be getting ruined with petty politics, isn't it time there was a fresh start to help build a better link between fans and the club rather than arguing about how many people everybody represents every month?
6. You have said that CCFC are working with Cov Rugby on events, do you have more information about what they are and how they will benefit CCFC?
7. How close are we to getting a new manager and what is the delay?
8. Venus said he was only here for football, why is he presenting housing plans?
9. Have there been many realistic applicants for the commercial director job?
A few predictable answers would come from those though. There were a couple more but I can't find that document he did the other week now.
2. For Ryton to be developed you say an "adequate replacement" needs to be provided, is this a replacement of pitches or a full training facility for CCFC?
3. You have mentioned multiple times about wanting to do an open fans forum with the trust, is this something that CWR would be able to put on and facilitate?
4. Would you rather have a vagina on your forehead, or have a row of penises down your back like a stegosaurus?
5. The SCG group seems to be getting ruined with petty politics, isn't it time there was a fresh start to help build a better link between fans and the club rather than arguing about how many people everybody represents every month?
6. You have said that CCFC are working with Cov Rugby on events, do you have more information about what they are and how they will benefit CCFC?
7. How close are we to getting a new manager and what is the delay?
8. Venus said he was only here for football, why is he presenting housing plans?
9. Have there been many realistic applicants for the commercial director job?
A few predictable answers would come from those though. There were a couple more but I can't find that document he did the other week now.
chiefdave
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That's the problem. Will they just take his first answer and move on to somebody phoning in to complain we haven't signed Messi or will they keep on him until they get a proper answer?
torchomatic
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I'd rather potentially give him the opportunity to say something rather than some shouty moron just abusing him live on CWR, that won't get us anywhere.
He's had 10 years to talk sense
Times up
The spin we've had off him and the other muppets that run the club is past a joke