fernandopartridge
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You could say the same about any terrorist attack, it's terrorism. It is a message to the government by attacking its people.
If it's a hatred of Muslim immigrants then you would think Eid or something would be the target.
"I'm really going to show that I hate the Muslim immigrants in Germany by ploughing through a crowd of people at a Christmas market"
(Just to disclaim, of course somebody ploughing through a crowd anywhere like this is terrorism and the perpetrators should be terrorised in return, my point is just the logic and thought process)
Still can't understand why people at a Christmas market would be the target of somebody who is anti Islam
Ok fair enough ..You could say the same about any terrorist attack, it's terrorism. It is a message to the government by attacking its people.
If his motivation is found to be a catastrophic breakdown in mental health, then personally I would want to look into the reasons behind that and try to stop someone else going down the same hole. But crack on with moaning about Romanian gypsies if you think that’s a better idea.The mental health issues again?
Hope he gets the help he needs, praying for him.
I think finding out motivation is important. Far too easy to say "yeah he's mental" and move on.. then the next time something happens.
If his motivation is found to be a catastrophic breakdown in mental health, then personally I would want to look into the reasons behind that and try to stop someone else going down the same hole. But crack on with moaning about Romanian gypsies if you think that’s a better idea.
I know, it's not an unreasonable assumption based on what's happened in recent years in Germany. The problem is that when it turns out that it isn't a Muslim perpetrator there are some that refuse to accept their assumption was wrong.Ok fair enough ..
It's not hard to see why people assume things though is it ? Most of our lives have been spent watching most terror attacks be perpetrated by islamists
Political beliefs do not live in a vacuum away from mental health?So his motivation isn't pointless if it's mental health but it is if his political / religious beliefs?
I think that while there are reputable sources saying this guy clearly had a strong dislike for Islam, it’s way too soon to say what the motive is behind this.
Islamists seem pretty right wing to me tbh!Well he’s either Islamist or he’s right wing, they’re the only people who do this.
Ok fair enough ..
It's not hard to see why people assume things though is it ? Most of our lives have been spent watching most terror attacks be perpetrated by islamists
I know, it's not an unreasonable assumption based on what's happened in recent years in Germany. The problem is that when it turns out that it isn't a Muslim perpetrator there are some that refuse to accept their assumption was wrong.
Islamists seem pretty right wing to me tbh!
We literally had a similar attack with a van from a gammon in this country.
Finsbury Park mosque attack suspect hoped to kill Jeremy Corbyn - BBC News
Darren Osborne, who denies murder, tells court his plan was to kill the Labour leader on a march.www.bbc.co.uk
Right but that doesn't change what I said
You can use political or religious beliefs to justify anything, but it might well be nonsense, and focusing squarely on that aspect of his motivation might not help you stop the next one.So his motivation isn't pointless if it's mental health but it is if his political / religious beliefs?
You can use political or religious beliefs to justify anything, but it might well be nonsense, and focusing squarely on that aspect of his motivation might not help you stop the next one.
In this particular case I have to wonder whether this attack was designed to elicit a specific reaction from a certain group of people.
So to be clear, you don’t think the Southport killer, or the Lee Rigby killer etc were suffering from mental health problems?It's like I said about the Southport c**t but it was just palmed away as mental health. Same as the one in Nottingham, same as the guy who tried to kill the soldier.
I don't think it should only focus on one aspect.
I think there's a pattern about "stopping the next one" though.
It's Tommy Robinson's fault basically.
Well of course they aren't right in the head.So to be clear, you don’t think the Southport killer, or the Lee Rigby killer etc were suffering from mental health problems?
Robinson followed the Dr?I mean guy was a Robinson fan and is followed by him on Twitter.
Well of course they aren't right in the head.
The issues are deeper though, aren't they?
Yes, this is exactly my point.Well of course they aren't right in the head.
The issues are deeper though, aren't they?
I shall do as Como and Harry Krishner do with any third hand information and take it as the absolute truthSaw this online but he’s not in his verified followers list so either made up or he unfollowed him after it came out. Treat with a pinch of salt.
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No idea what you mean by this btw.Germany has gone. Let's face it.
Glad it’s not just me…I also know it's bad but the thread title... I found myself saying "ole ole" after when it beeped my phone
This was before I knew about it and the content.
I also know it's bad but the thread title... I found myself saying "ole ole" after when it beeped my phone
This was before I knew about it and the content.
I know, it's not an unreasonable assumption based on what's happened in recent years in Germany. The problem is that when it turns out that it isn't a Muslim perpetrator there are some that refuse to accept their assumption was wrong.
Nobodies dancing with glee whatsoever.Just like those that dance with glee when it's not a Muslim.
Personally couldn't care who's done it, but it's a reoccurring theme within Europe at the minute. Like people have said, they were desperate to pretend it was a choir boy and Christian with the Southport attacks.
Anyway, more importantly, the death toll is low thank God, considering what happened.
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