fernandopartridge
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You could say the same about any terrorist attack, it's terrorism. It is a message to the government by attacking its people.
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You could say the same about any terrorist attack, it's terrorism. It is a message to the government by attacking its people.
Evo1883
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Ok fair enough ..
It's not hard to see why people assume things though is it ? Most of our lives have been spent watching most terror attacks be perpetrated by islamists
If his motivation is found to be a catastrophic breakdown in mental health, then personally I would want to look into the reasons behind that and try to stop someone else going down the same hole. But crack on with moaning about Romanian gypsies if you think that’s a better idea.
fernandopartridge
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I know, it's not an unreasonable assumption based on what's happened in recent years in Germany. The problem is that when it turns out that it isn't a Muslim perpetrator there are some that refuse to accept their assumption was wrong.
fernandopartridge
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Political beliefs do not live in a vacuum away from mental health?So his motivation isn't pointless if it's mental health but it is if his political / religious beliefs?
Islamists seem pretty right wing to me tbh!
shmmeee
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We literally had a similar attack with a van from a gammon in this country.
Finsbury Park mosque attack suspect hoped to kill Jeremy Corbyn - BBC News
Darren Osborne, who denies murder, tells court his plan was to kill the Labour leader on a march.
www.bbc.co.uk
Nick
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Which was also said about the choir boy.
There will be shit loads more coming out wont there.
It's fucking tragic people don't go home from having fun at this time of year.
Evo1883
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We literally had a similar attack with a van from a gammon in this country.
Finsbury Park mosque attack suspect hoped to kill Jeremy Corbyn - BBC News
Darren Osborne, who denies murder, tells court his plan was to kill the Labour leader on a march.
Right but that doesn't change what I said
Nick
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It's Tommy Robinson's fault basically.
Ccfcisparks
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His political and religious ideology is literally there documented on his Twitter and people are still thinking it could be different
You can use political or religious beliefs to justify anything, but it might well be nonsense, and focusing squarely on that aspect of his motivation might not help you stop the next one.So his motivation isn't pointless if it's mental health but it is if his political / religious beliefs?
In this particular case I have to wonder whether this attack was designed to elicit a specific reaction from a certain group of people.
Ccfcisparks
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Everything on Twitter I’ve seen was that his postings were anti Islam?
Im assuming people are going to believe they are fake or doctored
Im assuming people are going to believe they are fake or doctored
Nick
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It's like I said about the Southport c**t but it was just palmed away as mental health. Same as the one in Nottingham, same as the guy who tried to kill the soldier.
I don't think it should only focus on one aspect.
I think there's a pattern about "stopping the next one" though. It comes down to who's allowed into countries in the first place.
So to be clear, you don’t think the Southport killer, or the Lee Rigby killer etc were suffering from mental health problems?
shmmeee
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I mean guy was a Robinson fan and is followed by him on Twitter.
Ccfcisparks
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Robinson followed the Dr?
shmmeee
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There’s been crazies killing peoples forever. Most of these these days are lone wolf attacks, so it’s not like we can take on the group behind them. People of all political beliefs are radicalised online and the crazier among them end up shooting CEOs or ramming cars into Christmas markets or killing little girls. And that’s just this year with three wildly different ideologies with the only thread seemingly being overly online.
Yes, this is exactly my point.
shmmeee
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Saw this online but he’s not in his verified followers list so either made up or he unfollowed him after it came out. Treat with a pinch of salt.
Ccfcisparks
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I shall do as Como and Harry Krishner do with any third hand information and take it as the absolute truth
No idea what you mean by this btw.
Glad it’s not just me…I also know it's bad but the thread title... I found myself saying "ole ole" after when it beeped my phone
This was before I knew about it and the content.
ccfc922
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I also know it's bad but the thread title... I found myself saying "ole ole" after when it beeped my phone
This was before I knew about it and the content.
Ffs, sorry
ccfc922
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Just like those that dance with glee when it's not a Muslim.
Personally couldn't care who's done it, but it's a reoccurring theme within Europe at the minute. Like people have said, they were desperate to pretend it was a choir boy and Christian with the Southport attacks.
Anyway, more importantly, the death toll is low thank God, considering what happened.
That would make awesome beaches in the Alps to be fair
Ccfcisparks
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Nobodies dancing with glee whatsoever.
they are just pointing out when people should have egg on their faces, such as you, for jumping to conclusions