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  • Start date Sep 17, 2022
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #106
Grendel said:
We have been consistently average 10 - 12 points a game every every chunk of 10 games since the first 10
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To be honest, I'm just focusing on this season.
I think we'll be OK if we don't have a bad run of injuries but the lack of investment will catch up with us in the not too distant future.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #107
clint van damme said:
To be honest, I'm just focusing on this season.
I think we'll be OK if we don't have a bad run of injuries but the lack of investment will catch up with us in the not too distant future.
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Depends how January goes. Boddy and his message was the equivalent to shareholders of a profit warning. Can’t see if Gyokeres keeps going that he will not be sold
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #108
Grendel said:
Depends how January goes. Boddy and his message was the equivalent to shareholders of a profit warning. Can’t see if Gyokeres keeps going that he will not be sold
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I think we all know how January is going to go!
Agree about Gyokeres. Robins kept a worse team than this up first season back and I think he'll do it again, if he's still here.
I dread to think what the squad will look like going in to next season.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #109
I think also excluding the Norwich game aren’t we 8 points worse off than the same fixtures last season?
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #110
Fergusons_Beard said:
What’s seriously pissing me off about this is that lack of team spirit.

Not by the players but by the fucking fans.
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Agree with this. I'm steering clear of the match threads these days as the negativity is off the scale. Obv I'm not going to claim things are going well but some posters appear to be relishing the fact we're struggling.
 
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1ccfc

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #111
Grendel said:
We have been consistently average 10 - 12 points a game every every chunk of 10 games since the first 10
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Things aren't as bad as I feared. If we are getting 10 - 12 points a game, then a win or two and we'll rocket up the league.
 
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Bertola

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #112
GIMOC said:
ok, since Fulham game (the 4-1 at home) we’ve played 42 games and accumulated 45 points. That’s relegation form no matter which way you look at it. What part of that is rubbish?
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Ignoring the fact that 45 points last season was enough to stay up in a 46game season
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #113
Bertola said:
Ignoring the fact that 45 points last season was enough to stay up in a 46game season
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well no teams have point deductions are there?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #114
Grendel said:
Depends how January goes. Boddy and his message was the equivalent to shareholders of a profit warning. Can’t see if Gyokeres keeps going that he will not be sold
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Needs someone in the room arguing that a fire sale needs to wait till the summer.

Sell for cash

Gyo
O'Hare
Hamer
Sheaf possibly

Release
Hilssner
DaCosta
Rose
McF
One or both goalkeepers
Kelly
Reid
Walker
Waghorn
Allen

Then basically start from scratch
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #115
Grendel said:
I think also excluding the Norwich game aren’t we 8 points worse off than the same fixtures last season?
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we didn't play Sunderland either but Luton is the only result we've improved on from a corresponding fixture last season.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #116
clint van damme said:
we didn't play Sunderland either but Luton is the only result we've improved on from a corresponding fixture last season.
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Think we can safely say we aren't taking 6 points off whoever wins the league this year
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #117
GIMOC said:
ok, since Fulham game (the 4-1 at home) we’ve played 42 games and accumulated 45 points. That’s relegation form no matter which way you look at it. What part of that is rubbish?
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I am surprised with the stats but agree they don't look good. Having said that, throughout the whole of last season I can only remember a handful of games where were outclassed by the opposition and we were always in with a shout of getting something, appeared to be matching other teams quite comfortably and generally we were always creating chances, but missing tonnes of guilt edged opportunities in front of goal, I'm sure I saw a stat somewhere of chances Vs expected conversion rate and we were high one the former and low on the latter. we also generally got a lot of plaudits externally for our football. How that's rectified I'm not sure and I'm sure Robins is scratching his head.

I think it's why people frustrated that we couldn't perhaps muster up just a couple of new additions at the time just to bolster and take us over the line from being a "nearly" team. And we've obviously failed to do that in the summer. So frustrating for us all whichever way we look at it.

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GIMOC

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #118
PVA said:
I've said numerous times the form this season is dreadful, no one is denying that.

And yes you are conveniently taking something away.

Why 42 games? What sort of cut off is that? If you want to make it 46 games ie a season then it's 52 points, comfortably clear of relegation. And that includes the worst start to a season in a hundred years or whatever it is.
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so even after 46 games, 52 points is concerning. The fact our squad is weaker, off the field issues being more influential it doesn’t bode well. let’s hope during the international break they can plan for October which is arguably tougher than September. End of October we’re not having the same conversation
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #119
Seaside-Skyblue said:
I am surprised with the stats but agree they don't look good. Having said that, throughout the whole of last season I can only remember a handful of games where were outclassed by the opposition and we were always in with a shout of getting something, appeared to be matching other teams quite comfortably and generally we were always creating chances, but missing tonnes of guilt edged opportunities in front of goal, I'm sure I saw a stat somewhere of chances Vs expected conversion rate and we were high one the former and low on the latter. we also generally got a lot of plaudits externally for our football. How that's rectified I'm not sure and I'm sure Robins is scratching his head.

I think it's why people frustrated that we couldn't perhaps muster up just a couple of new additions at the time just to bolster and take us over the line from being a "nearly" team. And we've obviously failed to do that in the summer. So frustrating for us all whichever way we look at it.

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what we have to bear in mind. Many of the points accumulated during that period were last minute equalisers or winners which papers over the cracks even more. Can’t continually score that late on.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #120
GIMOC said:
so even after 46 games, 52 points is concerning. The fact our squad is weaker, off the field issues being more influential it doesn’t bode well. let’s hope during the international break they can plan for October which is arguably tougher than September. End of October we’re not having the same conversation
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Concerning, yes. But still comfortably clear of relegation despite including the worst start to a season in a hundred years.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #121
Seaside-Skyblue said:
I am surprised with the stats but agree they don't look good. Having said that, throughout the whole of last season I can only remember a handful of games where were outclassed by the opposition and we were always in with a shout of getting something, appeared to be matching other teams quite comfortably and generally we were always creating chances, but missing tonnes of guilt edged opportunities in front of goal, I'm sure I saw a stat somewhere of chances Vs expected conversion rate and we were high one the former and low on the latter. we also generally got a lot of plaudits externally for our football. How that's rectified I'm not sure and I'm sure Robins is scratching his head.

I think it's why people frustrated that we couldn't perhaps muster up just a couple of new additions at the time just to bolster and take us over the line from being a "nearly" team. And we've obviously failed to do that in the summer. So frustrating for us all whichever way we look at it.

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This season’s squad is worse than the one before and on top has been dealt a poor hand with the stadium farce and fixture pile up. We really just need to stay up and do a complete rebuild in the summer
 
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Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #122
Sick Boy said:
@Londonccfcfan can you give us your expert insights into why things aren’t that bad?
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It's pretty obvious to most we are in a false position. Gotta be pretty dumb not to see that.
 
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1ccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #123
Why is it a false position? We've played 7, and of those one was a newly promoted team, the other 5 are currently in the bottom half. The points gap already has virtually wiped out our games in hand. Form can obviously change over a season, but as we look at it now it doesn't look great. Unless, do you mean our false position is being in the Championship and we're more league one at the moment.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #124
1ccfc said:
Why is it a false position? We've played 7, and of those one was a newly promoted team, the other 5 are currently in the bottom half. The points gap already has virtually wiped out our games in hand. Form can obviously change over a season, but as we look at it now it doesn't look great. Unless, do you mean our false position is being in the Championship and we're more league one at the moment.
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Sunderland are top 6 tbf (though, give it a few months for Mowbray to settle in).

Our fans mocking them at the start of the season must feel pretty silly atm
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #125
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Sunderland are top 6 tbf (though, give it a few months for Mowbray to settle in).

Our fans mocking them at the start of the season must feel pretty silly atm
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About as silly as those delighted for them to go up
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #126
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Fuck me.

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By the 1 nil defeat at Fulham London and PVA ancestors were writing telegrams saying “it’s only a blip in form” “look what we did in 1911” and “if it wasn’t fot the keeper the forwards and the defence we’d be top by now”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #127
Grendel said:
By the 1 nil defeat at Fulham London and PVA ancestors were writing telegrams saying “it’s only a blip in form” “look what we did in 1911” and “if it wasn’t fot the keeper the forwards and the defence we’d be top by now”
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Yours was calling the horse drawn carriage for poor Harry Pollitt
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #128
Grendel said:
By the 1 nil defeat at Fulham London and PVA ancestors were writing telegrams saying “it’s only a blip in form” “look what we did in 1911” and “if it wasn’t fot the keeper the forwards and the defence we’d be top by now”
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The irony of this.

You literally brought up a player from the fucking 70s to make a point once yet apparently using results from a year ago is to be laughed at.

Your hypocrisy is pathetic as always.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #129
Londonccfcfan said:
It's pretty obvious to most we are in a false position. Gotta be pretty dumb not to see that.
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drink and drugs down in London must be spot on at the minute
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #130
'False position' is always a load of bollocks

Unless a points deduction has been made. E.g Derby last year was a false position would have been nowhere near bottom 3
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #131
Saddlebrains said:
'False position' is always a load of bollocks

Unless a points deduction has been made. E.g Derby last year was a false position would have been nowhere near bottom 3
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It's not bollocks when you've got 3 games in hand and only played 1 game in 7 at home.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #132
Saddlebrains said:
'False position' is always a load of bollocks

Unless a points deduction has been made. E.g Derby last year was a false position would have been nowhere near bottom 3
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At the end of a season sure, there are no fluke positions. But not even 10 games in?
 

1ccfc

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #133
clint van damme said:
It's not bollocks when you've got 3 games in hand and only played 1 game in 7 at home.
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And that 1 game at home we lost. Yes we've got games in hand, but even winning them all would barely take us out of relegation.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #134
1ccfc said:
And that 1 game at home we lost. Yes we've got games in hand, but even winning them all would barely take us out of relegation.
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But it would take us out of the relegation zone.
Let's see where we are end of October, we'll have a much better idea.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #135
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #136
clint van damme said:
It's not bollocks when you've got 3 games in hand and only played 1 game in 7 at home.
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Well its not a false position for the games weve played is it?

We've mustered 3 from a possible 21.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2022
  • #137
Saddlebrains said:
Well its not a false position for the games weve played is it?

We've mustered 3 from a possible 21.
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Is one home ge in 7 normal?

Isthe start we've had normal?
You're a constant doom monger, and to be honest, a bed wetting prick. Get a grip.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Sep 19, 2022
  • #138
We’ve not once been outplayed other than the Norwich game, most the goals we have conceded have been down to mistakes or individual lapses. I’m backing the lads to all click and pull together to keep us up. There have been spells in games where we look unplayable, and the starting 11 isnt to dissimilar to last season just Maatsen, JCS and Hyam out with Doyle, Panzo and Bidwell in fair trade
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 19, 2022
  • #139
clint van damme said:
Is one home ge in 7 normal?

Isthe start we've had normal?
You're a constant doom monger, and to be honest, a bed wetting prick. Get a grip.
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Sep 19, 2022
  • #140
This constant “we’ve lost this many out of this total of games” and “this is the worst start to a season ever” contexts do not cater for the extraordinary disruption that has blighted our campaign already.
Prior to that, who knows what the issue was, but I do not believe for a second that our start would have been as half as bad if we didn’t have the pitch disruption.

Yep, awful run, awful sequence of results since whenever, but who is to say it cannot be corrected? There are signs of an on-field improvement.
It may not improve to the point where we can feasibly hope to finish above 21st, but I can tell you this, flapping around about the situation and throwing stats around (like they can predict the future) will only wind people up and cause a degree of irrationality amongst those who are seriously, emotionally invested in the club.
Others, like myself, will just wonder what the heck people believe they can achieve by worrying over something they cannot affect.

It is what it is, let’s get behind the team and soldier on. 21st here we come.
 
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