No I think you only get landed on for picking one side, which very few people in this thread have.
The vast majority have criticised atrocities from both sides.
I like you Tom have tried to stay silent, I have posted just a few things, not fully knowing which side to believe and only being concerned for the innocents on both sides, but you then get landed on if you haven't chosen a side from several people. I will go back to just reading this thread and hold my thoughts to myself
I agree mostly in what you are saying PVA, however you can't always criticise both sides in an individual post you are answering too. I do believe there are atrocities on both sides and don't want to get into who's lying the most with some people on here. My thoughts align with SBP and many more that the innocents are the ones we should feel for.No I think you only get landed on for picking one side, which very few people in this thread have.
The vast majority have criticised atrocities from both sides.
Israel Zuniga and Gustavo Hamas with the goalsI reckon we will win 2-1 anyway
Israel Zuniga and Gustavo Hamas with the goals
Cos they’re childrenWhy are world leaders talking like it’s a football match?
We had Biden talking about ‘the other team’ and now Sunak saying ‘we want you to win’
It would make no difference to my thinking. This is two sides hell bent on a collision course decades in the making and not one of them is blameless. Both poke a stick at each other and as you said previously i am sure that the people of Palestine want peace and so do the Israeli population, if not their government.Anyway does anyone else feel that if Israel had proper evidence that it was Hamas who blew up the hospital they would have released it by now instead of peddling discredited audio recordings.
The was a ridiculous comment, guy thinks he's playing call of duty with his grandkidsWhy are world leaders talking like it’s a football match?
We had Biden talking about ‘the other team’ and now Sunak saying ‘we want you to win’
Comes across as very amateurish and undiplomatic.The was a ridiculous comment, guy thinks he's playing call of duty with his grandkids
Significant support across the political spectrum.
Our leaders are out of touch.
Well that was humbling
Jew
Muslim
Christian
In the cathedral praying in their own language and faith
Significant support across the political spectrum.
Our leaders are out of touch.
But manage the most controversial post of all time, that Tony has posted something informative!I’ve got so many questions on both sides I steer clear of posting.
But manage the most controversial post of all time, that Tony has posted something informative!
Who is he?This doesn't look like the words of somebody who might have bombed a hospital
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Minister of National Security for Israel, a hard right wingerWho is he?
Seems to me the sensible approach would be a ceasefire and full return to aid deliveries (hearing on the radio today that a handful of aid lorries were allowed in through the Egyptian border post, which sounds good but then they said that in “normal” times 200 lorries of aid a day go through the Egyptian border crossing) in exchange for the hostages. It’s a win win for Israel, either they get their people back or if Hamas refuses it adds to the Hamas are the bad guys we’re sending the ground forces in.Of course you’d hope most sane people would want a ceasefire but to what end…do the hostages get released, what next etc etc. it’s the problem with pollsters questions sometimes, very black and white
I’ve got so many questions on both sides I steer clear of posting. Some interesting posts though, the most useful for me was the Rory Stewart/Alistair Campbell podcast (posted by Tony I think).
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Where?You have said you are pro Hamas
The question was "Who's backing Hammas"? I said 'me', because I hate oppression in any form. And if Hammas can help give back to Palestine what rightly belongs to them, then I support their ideals. I don't support innocent civilians being killed, just as my grandad was in the Coventry blitz, but like I said, I support anybody and any country that fights oppression of their lands.Israel - Palestinian Conflict
Well no you said “far right western leaders might agree with me” - they all do including Keir Starmer as an opposition leader - excluding Norway - every EU country leader agrees with me That’s correct isn’t it? It might be, but Mr Netanyahu famously threatened 'war' against New Zealand for...www.skybluestalk.co.uk
The question was "Who's backing Hammas"? I said 'me', because I hate oppression in any form. And if Hammas can help give back to Palestine what rightly belongs to them, then I support their ideals. I don't support innocent civilians being killed, just as my grandad was in the Coventry blitz, but like I said, I support anybody and any country that fights oppression of their lands.
And why not? Why does the UK want to own a few small islands just off Argentina? How would you feel if say, the Hebrides or Shetands etc were invaded and taken over by another country? Oh, and by the way, do you fancy me? You seem to follow and save every post I've ever placed. Sorry Grendull but I'm straight. However, I have a good mate who's looking for a nice boy! I'll let him know he can follow you on here.You’ve also opposed the uk defending the Falkland Islands against Argentina
Well 300 miles, just off would be like the Isle of Wight. Or the Isle of Man. Plus of course they have no valid claim. Or to put it another way Coventry to Paris.And why not? Why does the UK want to own a few small islands just off Argentina? How would you feel if say, the Hebrides or Shetands etc were invaded and taken over by another country? Oh, and by the way, do you fancy me? You seem to follow and save every post I've ever placed. Sorry Grendull but I'm straight. However, I have a good mate who's looking for a nice boy! I'll let him know he can follow you on here.
Similar sort of deal on the West Bank, probably a 3 State solution. Not sure why Gaza and the West Bank should be connected. Maybe some sort of Federation but they seem to have very different politics.
The small missing detail is that the Falklanders do not want to be governed by Argentina.And why not? Why does the UK want to own a few small islands just off Argentina? How would you feel if say, the Hebrides or Shetands etc were invaded and taken over by another country? Oh, and by the way, do you fancy me? You seem to follow and save every post I've ever placed. Sorry Grendull but I'm straight. However, I have a good mate who's looking for a nice boy! I'll let him know he can follow you on here.
isn’t that the consequences of war? deaths on both sides. one death is too many regardless which ‘team’ your on
I despise how you all on here blame Isreal without calling out Hamas and other terrorist parties.
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