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I think it seems to be you and the ten a penny journalist who don’t understand. The same people who sing ‘Up the RA’ will also claim they don’t literally support the IRA, just it’s catchy.
I think it seems to be you and the ten a penny journalist who don’t understand. The same people who sing ‘Up the RA’ will also claim they don’t literally support the IRA, just it’s catchy.Support for a secular one state solution, even if that is what the chant meant for most, is not the same as support for the IRA.
I can maybe breakout the crayons if this is still too difficult to wrap your head around.
could just be a fan of the wolfetonesHang on, so what’s your position on this chant then, if not this?
I see that after weeks of silence on this one the algorithms have finally done their job on youIt is random watching people excuse things for one set of people but would be against it if somebody else did it.
What better day to sing anti Jew songs and promote hate for them than remembrance Day. May as well cover all the poppies with Palestine flags too.
Bit of a weird take.
That I would take offence at someone singing ‘Up the RA’ in the same way an Israeli would at a song that suggests their country shouldn’t exist. It’s catchy though so those singing it do have a point.Hang on, so what’s your position on this chant then, if not this?
I’ve never said that either chant isn’t offensive or inflammatory - I certainly wouldn’t chant either for that very reason. It’s quite a leap from there though to insist that anyone who does is a literal IRA fanatic or wants to wipe Jews off the earth.That I would take offence at someone singing ‘Up the RA’ in the same way an Israeli would at a song that suggests their country shouldn’t exist. It’s catchy though so those singing it do have a point.
I never claimed the latter did.I’ve never said that either chant isn’t offensive or inflammatory - I certainly wouldn’t chant either for that very reason. It’s quite a leap from there though to insist that anyone who does is a literal IRA fanatic or wants to wipe Jews off the earth.
So this literally is your position then?I never claimed the latter did.
‘Many people who don’t actually want to bomb Britain sing it. Because it’s a catchy chant.’ Got it.
If the organisers of these protests had one ounce of respect they should have been encouraging no demonstration on that day but that doesn't fit their agenda.Big Palestine thing planned for remembrance Day? Classy.
Still, nobody says that from the river to the sea thing do they
The tunnels run under much of Gaza. Apparently key locations are built under hospitals etc. Hamas have had key resources located in civilian tower blocks.Possibly naive, but in such a small area, it would be difficult for Hamas not to be in civilian areas surely?
I see that after weeks of silence on this one the algorithms have finally done their job on you
Just to point out in case people are thinking that this day has been deliberately selected that there have been protests arranged every Sunday for weeks and there are protests planned for every Sunday moving forward.So nothing is being arranged for remembrance day?
An anti-war demonstration on Remembrance Day seems entirely appropriate to me. An anti-Israel demonstration obviously wouldn’t be - if that’s what you think this is, I would have to disagree, and I doubt anyone could persuade you otherwise.So nothing is being arranged for remembrance day?
Just to point out in case people are thinking that this day has been deliberately selected that there have been protests arranged every Sunday for weeks and there are protests planned for every Sunday moving forward.
It’s a typo on his part - the protests have been every Saturday for weeks nowWhich is all well and good but the 11th is a Saturday....
An anti-war demonstration on Remembrance Day seems entirely appropriate to me. An anti-Israel demonstration obviously wouldn’t be - if that’s what you think this is, I would have to disagree, and I doubt anyone could persuade you otherwise.
The UK, or any other country or religion, doesn’t have a monopoly on Remembrance Day. Frothing about flags on poppies seems disingenuous to say the least.
It’s a typo on his part - the protests have been every Saturday for weeks now
That would depend to a large extent on how many relatives you personally lost in WW1 & WW2..... me?,lost my maternal grandfather in WW1 and my paternal great uncle both killed on the Somme and buried in war graves over there.An anti-war demonstration on Remembrance Day seems entirely appropriate to me. An anti-Israel demonstration obviously wouldn’t be - if that’s what you think this is, I would have to disagree, and I doubt anyone could persuade you otherwise.
The UK, or any other country or religion, doesn’t have a monopoly on Remembrance Day. Frothing about flags on poppies seems disingenuous to say the least.
No mate, you should sing songs about jews and be done with it.That would depend to a large extent on how many relatives you personally lost in WW1 & WW2..... me?,lost my maternal grandfather in WW1 and my paternal great uncle both killed on the Somme and buried in war graves over there.
Also a day where I pay respect to my late Father who fought in WW2 from 1940 onwards.
Saturday, Sunday, if I don’t have to go to work it’s all the sameWhich is all well and good but the 11th is a Saturday....
What? A Murdock owned rag spreading misinformation. I’m shocked.He was suspended as he was reported to have said just the palestinians shouldbe free, the times has now apologised as they reported his quote incorfrectly
No mate, you should sing songs about jews and be done with it.
Fuck the war memorials off too while we are at it.
It would be possible of course to have a Palestinian state from the River Jordan to the Med without abolishing Israel.The history of this chant shouldn’t be lost on anyone by now, but you seriously can’t see “any other interpretation”?
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There's always been a lot of scummy West Ham fans.Banter
Chanting 'Can we stab you every week?' and mocking the Jews killed in Nazi gas chambers... West Ham fans' shocking behaviour at Tottenham disgraced football
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Remembrance day is supposed to be about remembering all people who have died due to war. People are dying now in Gaza and the West Bank, and recently did in Israel.So nothing is being arranged for remembrance day?
Nice that you're trying to be clever rather than actually reply about the point.
So if they had anything about them, they would can the one on Remembrance Day, or take it somewhere elseJust to point out in case people are thinking that this day has been deliberately selected that there have been protests arranged every Sunday for weeks and there are protests planned for every Sunday moving forward.
Remembrance day is supposed to be about remembering all people who have died due to war. People are dying now in Gaza and the West Bank, and recently did in Israel.
We unite across faiths, cultures and backgrounds to remember the service and sacrifice of the Armed Forces community from United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. We will remember them.
What I'm less keen on is either the far right claiming the flag for themselves, or fetishising the military. That is a dangerous path to follow.
Like I said, Tommy Robinson opens his mouth and people will lose their heads.
The Palestine flag?The far left also of course “claim the flag for themselves” as well
I wouldn’t recommend itIn which case there's no issue with people dressing up as nazis as they died during the war too? Maybe a few swastika flags waved about?
I wouldn’t recommend it
I take it you've never been to Ireland.I guess you have no problem with ‘Ooh ah up the RA’ then?
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