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clint van damme

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No idea mate, why anything that's going on? I hope Biden checked that out before speaking though, or did a Tony-esque Wikipedia search on Hamas' missile collection, could look rather stupid otherwise (possible.)

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I don't know about you, but when someone changes their story 4 times,I don't think it's good idea to assume they're telling the truth the 5th time they do it.
 

Evo1883

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Israel owned up to it last night then reneged on what they said, why do you think they'd do that?
To be fair , their friends America, who most on here believe and back on Ukraine.. says they didn't do it so what are we to do ?

The USA have a long history of lying though
 

TomRad85

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I don't know about you, but when someone changes their story 4 times,I don't think it's good idea to assume they're telling the truth the 5th time they do it.
I don't want to engage tbh, disappointed by some posters last night and I'm not quite sure I've recovered from David calling me a simp, I thought we were cool now so thats very disappointing. Fact is there are shit loads of people out there with more info than the people of this thread and yet it's still very very unclear.

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No idea mate, why anything that's going on? I hope Biden checked that out before speaking though, or did a Tony-esque Wikipedia search on Hamas' missile collection, could look rather stupid otherwise (possible.)

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Biden unfortunately seems to be getting more disposed to jumping the gun nowadays.

Although fwiw I'm quite happy to wait for the 'truth'. The problem when instant news is it makes for easily manipulated chaos.

One thing's for sure, it's not going to help things simmer down regardless
 

TomRad85

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Biden unfortunately seems to be getting more disposed to jumping the gun nowadays.

Although fwiw I'm quite happy to wait for the 'truth'. The problem when instant news is it makes for easily manipulated chaos.

One thing's for sure, it's not going to help things simmer down regardless

Amen brother

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clint van damme

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To be fair , their friends America, who most on here believe and back on Ukraine.. says they didn't do it .. so what are we to do ?

The USA have a long history of lying though

True, but I just think Israel have made such a mess of their comms since it happened that its impossible not to be suspicious.
 

clint van damme

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I don't want to engage tbh, disappointed by some posters last night and I'm not quite sure I've recovered from David calling me a simp, I thought we were cool now so thats very disappointing. Fact is there are shit loads of people out there with more info than the people of this thread and yet it's still very very unclear.

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Not engaging is without doubt the smart move, avoided it on the Ukraine thread, foolishly got involved on here
 

GIMOC

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I'll ask again, why did Israel change their story 4 times?

And for your information I did condemn the killing of the 2 football supporters on the thread about it.

How much compassion for innocent Palestinian civilians getting killed have you shown?

who knows? trying to appease people who jumped to conclusions that it was them. In this world nowadays, everyone wants answers immediately, the world of social media. Jeremy Corbyn and alike tweeting immediately after saying Isreal to blame without any evidence. see you swerve my question of where is the proof from hamas

I think anyone would be pretty heartless if they didnt feel sorry or have sympathy and compassion for anyone killed in this sad affair, on both sides.

it’s embarrassing for some on here who were desperate to believe everything immediately after the attack. look through and you’ll cringe. and more so the desperation to point score to suit their own agenda.

as for the other thread, it’s clear for anyone, the mob on here hating Israel are the same who haven’t said a word on the other thread. why is that?
 

TomRad85

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I know it's ageist but surely there has to be some sort of age limit on people doing that job? He looks as frail as I've see him on the news tonight.
There's no way he's anything more than a puppet with someone else's hand up his rectum at this point surely. He can barely put a sentence together, to the point I wonder whether he posts on this forum.

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I know it's ageist but surely there has to be some sort of age limit on people doing that job? He looks as frail as I've see him on the news tonight.
Am genuinely shocked he's standing again. I thought he was the safe, wise pair of anti Trump hands who'd stand aside for this time.

Mind you, where are all the other safe wise anti Trump hands when you need them?!?
 

clint van damme

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who knows? trying to appease people who jumped to conclusions that it was them. In this world nowadays, everyone wants answers immediately, the world of social media. Jeremy Corbyn and alike tweeting immediately after saying Isreal to blame without any evidence. see you swerve my question of where is the proof from hamas

I think anyone would be pretty heartless if they didnt feel sorry or have sympathy and compassion for anyone killed in this sad affair, on both sides.

it’s embarrassing for some on here who were desperate to believe everything immediately after the attack. look through and you’ll cringe. and more so the desperation to point score to suit their own agenda.

as for the other thread, it’s clear for anyone, the mob on here hating Israel are the same who haven’t said a word on the other thread. why is that?

I'm not swerving any question of proof from Hamas, my opinion is built on the following and nothing to do with anything hamas said:

Israel launched shells at the hospital 2 days ago.

Doctors receiving a warning to evacuate.

The tweets and u turns I've explained.

2 renown Gaza correspondents who said they seriously doubt Hamas has a rocket capable of doing that damage.

The Israrli spokesman who admitted they'd lied about these type of incidents before.

Israel saying they had irrefutable proof it was a Jihadi group but still rereading a now discredited audio of a conversation between them and Hamas.

Israel has long history of bombing hospitals, this is nothing new.
 

GIMOC

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I'm not swerving any question of proof from Hamas, my opinion is built on the following and nothing to do with anything hamas said:

Israel launched shells at the hospital 2 days ago.

Doctors receiving a warning to evacuate.

The tweets and u turns I've explained.

2 renown Gaza correspondents who said they seriously doubt Hamas has a rocket capable of doing that damage.

The Israrli spokesman who admitted they'd lied about these type of incidents before.

Israel saying they had irrefutable proof it was a Jihadi group but still rereading a now discredited audio of a conversation between them and Hamas.

Israel has long history of bombing hospitals, this is nothing new.

lol so not based on actual fact just on your opinion. brilliant.

another swerve about the other thread where the lynch mob on this are absent.

what actual facts are out there to show Isreal done the bombing last night? please show me.
 

clint van damme

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Am genuinely shocked he's standing again. I thought he was the safe, wise pair of anti Trump hands who'd stand aside for this time.

Mind you, where are all the other safe wise anti Trump hands when you need them?!?

Same, and trump is no spring chicken or picture of health either
 

clint van damme

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lol so not based on actual fact just on your opinion. brilliant.

another swerve about the other thread where the lynch mob on this are absent.

what actual facts are out there to show Isreal done the bombing last night? please show me.

I never said they were facts, I've built a picture based on the reasons I've listed and Im convinced Israel is responsible, and Ive argued with people who've built a counter narrative, which they also didn't build on facts but one you seem to agree with.

As for the lynch mob reference, I genuinely have no idea what you're on about.
 

GIMOC

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I never said they were facts, I've built a picture based on the reasons I've listed and Im convinced Israel is responsible, and Ive argued with people who've built a counter narrative, which they also didn't build on facts but one you seem to agree with.

As for the lynch mob reference, I genuinely have no idea what you're on about.

you were quick last night to say Isreal behind the attack yet no actual proof to back that up? do you genuinely believe 500 died going by the photos seen today?

as for the other thread - Sweden v Belgium shootings

Where is tony, Dave and alike condemning what happened? I’m sure it it was a right wing loon attacking Muslims they’d be all over it. the double standards are for all to see.
 

clint van damme

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you were quick last night to say Isreal behind the attack yet no actual proof to back that up? do you genuinely believe 500 died going by the photos seen today?

as for the other thread - Sweden v Belgium shootings

Where is tony, Dave and alike condemning what happened? I’m sure it it was a right wing loon attacking Muslims they’d be all over it. the double standards are for all to see.

This notion that people have to comment on every event is nonsense to be honest and I said as much earlier in this thread.

As for numbers, I've not commented because in that chaos it would be gard to establish accurately. That really shouldn't be the main take from hospital getting bombed.

And I was quick to say Israel was behind the attack because they tweeted they were!
 

GIMOC

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This notion that people have to comment on every event is nonsense to be honest and I said as much earlier in this thread.

As for numbers, I've not commented because in that chaos it would be gard to establish accurately. That really shouldn't be the main take from hospital getting bombed.

And I was quick to say Israel was behind the attack because they tweeted they were!

you re making yourself silly here. you’ve got the usual lot all over this thread and others but no posts on the thread I posted. surley because it doesn’t suit their agenda. they jump on every fucking thread. shows lack of empathy and sympathy. it’s embarrassing.

classic. so you believe Israel when it suits but not when it doesn’t

priceless
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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you re making yourself silly here. you’ve got the usual lot all over this thread and others but no posts on the thread I posted. surley because it doesn’t suit their agenda. they jump on every fucking thread. shows lack of empathy and sympathy. it’s embarrassing.

classic. so you believe Israel when it suits but not when it doesn’t

priceless
When’s Hamer signing his new contract mate?
 
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Tbh I avoid the politics threads on the football board, there's enough shit on here to keep me satisfied.
 

clint van damme

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you re making yourself silly here. you’ve got the usual lot all over this thread and others but no posts on the thread I posted. surley because it doesn’t suit their agenda. they jump on every fucking thread. shows lack of empathy and sympathy. it’s embarrassing.

classic. so you believe Israel when it suits but not when it doesn’t

priceless

Priceless is you haven't posted on a thread youre calling others out for not posting on!

And yeah, when someone with a history of doing something tells me they've done it again, I tend to believe them, even if they are a serial liar.
 

SBAndy

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you re making yourself silly here. you’ve got the usual lot all over this thread and others but no posts on the thread I posted. surley because it doesn’t suit their agenda. they jump on every fucking thread. shows lack of empathy and sympathy. it’s embarrassing.

classic. so you believe Israel when it suits but not when it doesn’t

priceless

Aren’t you the chemtrails fella?
 

GIMOC

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Priceless is you haven't posted on a thread youre calling others out for not posting on!

And yeah, when someone with a history of doing something tells me they've done it again, I tend to believe them, even if they are a serial liar.

classic again. the lynch mob are on here 24/7. sure most on here who think for themselves can see the wood through the trees. probably why most don’t post because if an opinion isnt agreed, they get jumped on. embarrassing really
 

Evo1883

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you were quick last night to say Isreal behind the attack yet no actual proof to back that up? do you genuinely believe 500 died going by the photos seen today?

as for the other thread - Sweden v Belgium shootings

Where is tony, Dave and alike condemning what happened? I’m sure it it was a right wing loon attacking Muslims they’d be all over it. the double standards are for all to see.

To be fair , I've not seen yourself comment on here or on your twitter about the Christian bloke in America killing the 6 year old Muslim kid

Look I get it , I've argued on this thread about things , but we can't talk about double standards
 

clint van damme

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classic again. the lynch mob are on here 24/7. sure most on here who think for themselves can see the wood through the trees. probably why most don’t post because if an opinion isnt agreed, they get jumped on. embarrassing really

Lynch mob! Ridiculous rhetoric.
And again, why didn't you post on the thread yourself?
 

clint van damme

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To be fair , I've not seen yourself comment on here or on your twitter about the Christian bloke in America killing the 6 year old Muslim kid

Look I get it , I've argued on this thread about things , but we can't talk about double standards

I don't think I commented on that which just shows you can't comment on everything.
Some of us are on here more than is good for us as it is!
 

David O'Day

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If anyone wants to know about Gimoc just go and look at his twiiter, it's a lovely mixture of racism, far right batshit, chemtrails and other weird stuff.
 

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