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David O'Day

David O'Day

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Kizz said:
I did, i just didn't mean to send it. rather settle things with my fist, just be a bit gentle not been in a fight since swindon at home about 9 years ago.


enjoy your tea.


if i get banned i will see you around sometime somewhere. (not a threat)
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what ever stabby, see you later
 
Grendel

Grendel

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shmmeee

shmmeee

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tisza said:
Should add Judaism to that list. That's a big issue particularly in the West Bank & Israeli expansionism there as well as with setting the current Israeli govt agenda on Gaza etc.
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Buddhism and Hinduism too.
Kizz said:
🤣🤣 Where's the excuse, you're lost in your own world.


Terror attacks are literally defined as an act committed against another in the name of a political or religious reason.


So how is a man spraying into a crowd of everyone with a gun a terrorist act?


I still dont see me making excuses for a nutter shooting another, do you?


I can post hundreds of dead Russians, dead Muslims, can even post a video of a women being decapitated by these people you love so much.


There's 2 facts.

1) you're a fucking idiot who thinks calling me fat affects me.

2) you're a fucking idiot who is too soft to be on the internet.

If anyone should be fucking off its you, actually love to meet you and smack you around silly.
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Arent all wars started because of political reasons?
 
tisza

tisza

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Como said:
Very disturbing but worth a read to see what we are up against:

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It's becoming increasingly obvious that this was a planned attack designed to provoke a massive response from Israel. The aims of the attack were far more politically & psychologically- based than any military goals.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Sky Blue Pete said:
6000 children - glad Israel are doing all they can to avoid civilian deaths
I know Hamas don’t give a shit about them but ….
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Finally sounds like US are putting israel under increased pressure. They won’t have much support left unless they are seen to actively minimise civilian deaths.
 
Como

Como

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I knew it was going to be bad but not this bad and even the BBC are having to address it.

UN not so much.

Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears

The BBC has seen and heard evidence of rape, sexual violence and mutilation of women during the 7 October Hamas attacks.
WARNING: CONTAINS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND RAPE
Several people involved in collecting and identifying the bodies of those killed in the attack told us they had seen multiple signs of sexual assault, including broken pelvises, bruises, cuts and tears, and that the victims ranged from children and teenagers to pensioners.
Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim.
Videos of naked and bloodied women filmed by Hamas on the day of the attack, and photographs of bodies taken at the sites afterwards, suggest that women were sexually targeted by their attackers.
Few victims are thought to have survived to tell their own stories.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Como said:
I knew it was going to be bad but not this bad and even the BBC are having to address it.

UN not so much.

Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears

The BBC has seen and heard evidence of rape, sexual violence and mutilation of women during the 7 October Hamas attacks.
WARNING: CONTAINS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND RAPE
Several people involved in collecting and identifying the bodies of those killed in the attack told us they had seen multiple signs of sexual assault, including broken pelvises, bruises, cuts and tears, and that the victims ranged from children and teenagers to pensioners.
Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim.
Videos of naked and bloodied women filmed by Hamas on the day of the attack, and photographs of bodies taken at the sites afterwards, suggest that women were sexually targeted by their attackers.
Few victims are thought to have survived to tell their own stories.
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If you didn’t know it was that bad you haven’t been paying attention. It was reported by all outlets including the BBC at the time. The media are now rehashing these stories as good client journalists because our government wants to distract from Israel’s own behaviour since that day. 6000 Palestinians children dead if you haven’t been paying attention.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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skybluetony176 said:
If you didn’t know it was that bad you haven’t been paying attention. It was reported by all outlets including the BBC at the time. The media are now rehashing these stories as good client journalists because our government wants to distract from Israel’s own behaviour since that day. 6000 Palestinians children dead if you haven’t been paying attention.
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Yep I’m quite offended (though I don’t really matter) that Israel feels the need to keep saying look the people that did this were psychotic monsters. I know! Everyone I know knows! Now where are the non psychotic monsters who know how to act and respond to build something lasting?
 
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wingy

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skybluetony176 said:
If you didn’t know it was that bad you haven’t been paying attention. It was reported by all outlets including the BBC at the time. The media are now rehashing these stories as good client journalists because our government wants to distract from Israel’s own behaviour since that day. 6000 Palestinians children dead if you haven’t been paying attention.
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It's okay, the house of representatives have voted something through that basically says substituting Zionism will be classed as antisemitic afain and district attorneys have written to certain channels to state that any succour towards the Arab opinions they will be in court or so I believe . I'm sure there normal everyday words can be substituted if you feel inclined?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep I’m quite offended (though I don’t really matter) that Israel feels the need to keep saying look the people that did this were psychotic monsters. I know! Everyone I know knows! Now where are the non psychotic monsters who know how to act and respond to build something lasting?
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Hamas aren’t in the West Bank yet the Israeli government seem fine with the murder of civilians there too. They need to come out and admit that they’re of the same mindset as young Kieran on here
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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wingy said:
It's okay, the house of representatives have voted something through that basically says substituting Zionism will be classed as antisemitic afain and district attorneys have written to certain channels to state that any succour towards the Arab opinions they will be in court or so I believe . I'm sure there normal everyday words can be substituted if you feel inclined?
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Which is ridiculous because Jews are not excluded from being anti-Zionist. In fact when some Jews invented Zionism other Jews immediately invented anti-Zionism, Jews are the original anti- Zionist and still are to this day including Jews who live in Israel. They see Zionism as a direct threat to god and because of their beliefs certain sects of Judaism are exempt from doing national service in Israel unless they volunteer and even then they’re in their own outfit and do things like observation and and medical, they don’t tend to be frontline soldiers.
 
tisza

tisza

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hmmm

www.bbc.co.uk

Israeli settler violence brings destruction and fear to West Bank as war rages

Attacks including fatal shootings of Palestinians by Jewish settlers have risen sharply since 7 October.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Said it before these settlers are a huge problem when it comes to time to hopefully seek a 2 state solution. Large number of religiously motivated armed settlers that are not going to be moved willingly. They are the ones voting in these extreme Nationalist parties that are propping up Netanyahu and setting the Gaza policies.
More armed settlers than there are members of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups.
US finally making first steps to address this issue by clamping down on settler funding from US groups and now denying them US visas.
 
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wingy

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tisza said:
Said it before these settlers are a huge problem when it comes to time to hopefully seek a 2 state solution. Large number of religiously motivated armed settlers that are not going to be moved willingly. They are the ones voting in these extreme Nationalist parties that are propping up Netanyahu and setting the Gaza policies.
More armed settlers than there are members of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups.
US finally making first steps to address this issue by clamping down on settler funding from US groups and now denying them US visas.
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Oh are they classed as terrorists now?
 
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Macca1987

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tisza said:
Said it before these settlers are a huge problem when it comes to time to hopefully seek a 2 state solution. Large number of religiously motivated armed settlers that are not going to be moved willingly. They are the ones voting in these extreme Nationalist parties that are propping up Netanyahu and setting the Gaza policies.
More armed settlers than there are members of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups.
US finally making first steps to address this issue by clamping down on settler funding from US groups and now denying them US visas.
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I agree completely, there were posts previously about all the Palestinians being killed and it turning their families etc towards extremism, it doesn't help the matter when you have these hard line extremist settlers on the Israeli side taking over part of the Palestinian territory and having the power in the government to maybe force Netanyahu down a very hard line
Just to clarify I am not on either side, I just want to see peace and a 2 state solution where normal people can live their lives in safety (just in case anyone wanted to jump on to say I'm on the side of Hamas etc)
 
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