Transfer Rumour January transfer window (22 Viewers)

[skybluecam]

Well. Quite.

So there’s no logic to your point.

Also you keep banging on about Chelsea. It’s Chelsea! No other manager we could’ve appointed would ever dream of getting the Chelsea job. Why would being unsuccessful at a much much higher level disqualify you from getting a job at a lower level?

 

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[TomRad85]

Firstly lol at celebrity net worth but let’s assume it’s accurate, isn’t the whole point that he wants to prove himself as a manager and doesn’t need the money?

Hard to prove yourself when no one will hire you.

Well you assume anything anyone who is a forum itk says is accurate right now so yeh lets just assume that's accurate.

Why the hell would he be desperate for a job with that kind of money? He's not the random Scandi bloke you forgot the name of, the bloke from Wycombe or even Mark Robins, he's fucking loaded, of course he can make demands, absolute batshit to suggest otherwise quite frankly.

 

[shmmeee]

So there’s no logic to your point.

Also you keep banging on about Chelsea. It’s Chelsea! No other manager we could’ve appointed would ever dream of getting the Chelsea job. Why would being unsuccessful at a much much higher level disqualify you from getting a job at a lower level?

Because success is relative. 17th wouldn’t be a success for Chelsea but would for Ipswich.

My entire contention is that he has no impact on the teams he manages. If you’re looking for a manager to have an impact on an underperforming squad he’s about the worst you could choose.

Even his fans seem to accept that now and think he needs a whole new squad and then maybe he’ll learn tactics and motivation or something.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Please merciful god can we have some actually rumours now

 

[shmmeee]

Well you assume anything anyone who is a forum itk is accurate right now so yeh lets just assume thats accurate.

Why the hell would he be desperate for a job with that kind of money? He's not the random Scandi bloke you forgot the name of, the bloke from Wycombe or even Mark Robins, he's fucking loaded, of course he can make demands, absolute batshit to suggest otherwise quite frankly.

Money can’t buy respect as a manager. Why is he even working if what you say is true?

 

[TomRad85]

Money can’t buy respect as a manager. Why is he even working if what you say is true?

Because he likes it? Why does anyone who has amassed over a certain amount still work?

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Not a bad option for a LB.

 

[shmmeee]

Because he likes it? Why does anyone who has amassed over a certain amount still work?

Right. So not because he needs the money. So what’s his motivation?

 

[Hincha]

So we sold a 2-season Premier League or we’ll sell you to Wright & MvE, so makes sense that their agents are pushing for an exit given how this season has gone.

Need to get them motivated to put themselves in the shop window for the second half of this season.

Wonder if Doug is trying the Premier League dream on our January targets - surely won’t wash anymore.

 

[skybluecam]

Because success is relative. 17th wouldn’t be a success for Chelsea but would for Ipswich.

What does that even mean

Look at someone like Potter, he is in demand now but absolutely bombed at Chelsea (did far worse than Lampard).

Lampard’s only season at this level he got playoffs. Now you say that is what he should’ve got, because that was the quality of Derby’s squad. Well, Doug thinks our squad is top 6, so surely it’s perfectly logical he hired a guy with a track record of getting top 6 squads top 6 finishes?

 

[shmmeee]

What does that even mean

Look at someone like Potter, he is in demand now but absolutely bombed at Chelsea (did far worse than Lampard).

Lampard’s only season at this level he got playoffs. Now you say that is what he should’ve got, because that was the quality of Derby’s squad. Well, Doug thinks our squad is top 6, so surely it’s perfectly logical he hired a guy with a track record of getting top 6 squads top 6 finishes?

Do you think the current squad is performing at their level?

Or are we back to all these players are awful despite teams above us wanting them?

 

[Hincha]

What does that even mean

Look at someone like Potter, he is in demand now but absolutely bombed at Chelsea (did far worse than Lampard).

Lampard’s only season at this level he got playoffs. Now you say that is what he should’ve got, because that was the quality of Derby’s squad. Well, Doug thinks our squad is top 6, so surely it’s perfectly logical he hired a guy with a track record of getting top 6 squads top 6 finishes?

Lampard did far worse than Potter when they had the same squad in the same season…

 

[TomRad85]

Right. So not because he needs the money. So what’s his motivation?

What's your actual argument at this point? I genuinely don't know where you're going. I may have to hold my hands up and say you're too smart for me as i legit don't know what's going on

 

[shmmeee]

Lampard did far worse than Potter when they had the same squad in the same season…

Shhhh we’re trying to spin a narrative. Can’t have pesky facts getting in the way

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Not a bad option for a LB.
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Odd player in terms of where he plays on the pitch, played LB a lot for Bristol Rovers but CAM/RW for the Chelsea youth, perhaps he could be a CM backup to Rudoni

 

[Sick Boy]

He was unemployed for a year.

Once again, so was MR before he rejoined us. It means nothing.

 

[shmmeee]

What's your actual argument at this point? I genuinely don't know where you're going. I may have to hold my hands up and say you're too smart for me as i legit don't know what's going on

If he doesn’t need the job for cash he needs it for respect. Lampard wants to manage. He doesn’t want to be a failure. No one was hiring him until us. He will have been glad to get a job and not in a position to turn us down over transfer demands. That’s my point.

 

[David O'Day]

Not a bad option for a LB.
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he's a lw/midfielder who can play lwb

not what we want

 

[skybluecam]

Lampard did far worse than Potter when they had the same squad in the same season…

The caretaker job?

Don’t know why anyone pays attention to that, it’s irrelevant.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The caretaker job?

Don’t know why anyone pays attention to that, it’s irrelevant.

how is it irrelevant?

 

[skybluecam]

how is it irrelevant?

Because it was 11 games with a squad who had nothing to play for and who knew he wouldn’t be there any longer.

Like having a supply teacher at school, no one is going to bother trying.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Because it was 11 games with a squad who had nothing to play for and who knew he wouldn’t be there any longer.

Like having a supply teacher at school, no one is going to bother trying.

you can’t just edit out parts of people’s careers when it suits.

 

[mmttww]

Can’t have pesky facts getting in the way

Like him getting Chelsea to 4th and the FA Cup final with their best player having been sold and being under an embargo which stopped the signing of a replacement?

Your fixation on them having finishing 3rd the year before and choosing to ignore the context is a bit weird, and an example of exactly what you're calling out here.

 

[TomRad85]

Even the transfer rumour thread isn't safe anymore.

 

[skybluecam]

you can’t just edit out parts of people’s careers when it suits.

It’s called context.

If you think a 3 month caretaker stint offers much insight on how a manager will perform in a permanent role I don’t know what to say.

 

[TomRad85]

Need GIMOC to come make up some bollocks in here. Even if its just for the benefit of giving everyone a common foe.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It’s called context.

If you think a 3 month caretaker stint offers much insight on how a manager will perform in a permanent role I don’t know what to say.

‘Context’ is a cop out, you can twist that however you want. It’s also ‘context’ that he’s had approaching the same number of games here, with everything to play for so you’d have expected to see something by now, and we’ve seen pretty much nothing.

Facts & stats are all that matters ultimately.

 

[FergieTheFinisher]

If he doesn’t need the job for cash he needs it for respect. Lampard wants to manage. He doesn’t want to be a failure. No one was hiring him until us. He will have been glad to get a job and not in a position to turn us down over transfer demands. That’s my point.

Your point is nonsense.
How do you know this? There is an infinite number of reasons why he may have taken time out, from licking his wounds to personal family issues. You are clearly making assumptions. How do you know whether his phone rang with job offers?

You seem to be the most pointlessly argumentative person on this forum.

 

[skybluecam]

‘Context’ is a cop out, you can twist that however you want. It’s also ‘context’ that he’s had approaching the same number of games here, with everything to play for so you’d have expected to see something by now, and we’ve seen pretty much nothing.

Facts & stats are all that matters ultimately.

We’ve seen plenty.

Personally I’m encouraged by our performances when we had EMC available.

Anyway, cba for all of this again.

 

[shmmeee]

Your point is nonsense.
How do you know this? There is an infinite number of reasons why he may have taken time out, from licking his wounds to personal family issues. You are clearly making assumptions. How do you know whether his phone rang with job offers?

You seem to be the most pointlessly argumentative person on this forum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

 

[Ring Of Steel]

We’ve seen plenty.

Personally I’m encouraged by our performances when we had EMC available.

Anyway, cba for all of this again.

Me neither tbh

 

[Ring Of Steel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

In a nutshell. Each to their own & fair enough but this is where I am and hopefully I’m wrong.

 

[FergieTheFinisher]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

QED

 

[skybluecam]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

You’re assuming he wanted to work.

Simplest explanation for why he wasn’t working was that he didn’t want to.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Weird question, would people been happier with us signing Joe Edward’s as the manager?