Kingokings204
Well-Known Member
Oh god. Here we go.......
Quite a lot of opinion, now we will see what its like now the Conservatives are coming back from work.
I am one of those people. If you are open for business, you are open for business. If gays came into my pub, I would serve them. The same goes for everyone else - even you. A business is not there to discriminate, it should be neutral. As long as people are not breaking the law or damaging property. I would accept a dress code, because you can adapt your clothing style. I would not expect people to change their sexual preference to fit in with my views though. What an arrogant and bigoted attitude.
Reece-Mogg has views best on religious beliefs.
He defends women’s rights in parliament and is respected by many including Jess Phillips. He doesn’t impose such views on others and has made it clear he’d never seek the change the law on such matters - it is a point of principal.
The snarling bigoted left thought police on here prove the OP has a very valid point.
What do you mean by pretended? Should people not be allowed the right of expression?
I have quite a lot of friends who are gay. The wife always wanted a gay son who is very camp. But......
Although I am not religious I respect people who are religious. This can include not letting people sleep together who are not married. Being gay is against some religions. Then you have people sleeping under their roof.
I agree that if you open up a business you should accept all. Everyone should be respected. But religions should be respected. And so should freedom of speech.
Not clear cut to me. And some gay people agree. You have those who hide who they really are. But then you have some who are totally militant and only want to cause trouble to highlight anything that they don't agree with. Then you have the majority that just want to be left alone to have a normal life. They want to blend in. They are normal people so why not be treated as so?
So can you please explain why the veteran LGBT campaigner Peter Tatchell takes that view. It was his view I was expressing.
Trust you to stick up for a man who believes rape victims are wrong to abort their rapists baby.
Gay rights: five activists reflect on the history of the movement in the USWhat is a militant gay person?
What is a militant gay person?
I’m not I’m sticking up for the basics of democracy - freedom of speech and expression.
You tell them they are not militant then. It is how some described themselves.How are they militant?? People trying to be seen as equal within society?
Part of the linkNice stories, but not really militants.
QUOTE="Astute, post: 1421109, member: 2627"]I have quite a lot of friends who are gay. The wife always wanted a gay son who is very camp. But......
Although I am not religious I respect people who are religious. This can include not letting people sleep together who are not married. Being gay is against some religions. Then you have people sleeping under their roof.
I agree that if you open up a business you should accept all. Everyone should be respected. But religions should be respected. And so should freedom of speech.
Not clear cut to me. And some gay people agree. You have those who hide who they really are. But then you have some who are totally militant and only want to cause trouble to highlight anything that they don't agree with. Then you have the majority that just want to be left alone to have a normal life. They want to blend in. They are normal people so why not be treated as so?
Yeah I agree and I wouldn't discriminate against gay people in my business either as an example but I do agree with people expressing their wish based on their religion or whatever. If someone doesn't want to accept their business because of their sexuality let's say then it's surely their damn loss but allow them their opinion.
Is that what I said though?You think businesses should choose who they serve is the same as allowing people to have opinions? What if you don’t like „blacks“ or Muslims? Just turn them away? What if a company doesn’t like your face? In their opinion you are not worth serving?
No one should be discriminated against full stop.
Including people with religious beliefs?
Bang on mate.Well this is absolute bollocks. The whole premise this is based on is utterly flawed in that it indicates that those who earn less don't work as hard. I'm fortunate enough to earn decent enough money. My mum works a damn load harder than me and earns less than half what i do.
They shouldn't be free to discriminate against people based upon their beliefs.
Hooray. You have got my point.No one should be discriminated against full stop.
Hooray. You have got my point.
We shouldn't discriminate against people and how they lead their lives as ling as it doesn't harm others. We shouldn't discriminate against people's religious beliefs. This is the fine line I mentioned.
Should people have the right to keep to their religious beliefs in their own home?
It is debatable whichever way you look at it.
It is clear cut. You can have your opinions, but if you’re in business you can’t pick and choose your clients based on your views on sex, religion colour or whatever. If you have this inflexible attitude don’t go into business.
If they're offering a service and then their beliefs are imposed upon others and lead to discrimination, that is wrong.
Sadly in this article you’d be on the side of the absurd Fran Cowling and not the admirable Peter Tatchell.
Peter Tatchell: snubbed by students for free speech stance
It is a difficult question but I am not comfortable with kind of discrimination. Should someone be able to refuse service based on the colour of their skin?
You are bringing in racist comments into a totally different subject.It is a difficult question but I am not comfortable with kind of discrimination. Should someone be able to refuse service based on the colour of their skin?
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