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Brighton Sky Blue

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Which is irrelevant - if simms for example does score a goal every other game ultimately he will be worth a lot of money. MVE potentially as well.
They aren’t irrelevant as it exposes the club to more risk.
 

skybluecam

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Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins26

More than half of our signings have been 23 or under. It's a very young squad. Wright sticks out, but I think issues off the pitch are affecting him.

Ultimately we have followed the same model as previously- use our budget to sign promising younger players. The only difference this season is that our budget increased. We weren't choosing to only spend 1-2m in the past, it was the only money available.
 

Greggs

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Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins26

More than half of our signings have been 23 or under. It's a very young squad. Wright sticks out, but I think issues off the pitch are affecting him.

Ultimately we have followed the same model as previously- use our budget to sign promising younger players. The only difference this season is that our budget increased. We weren't choosing to only spend 1-2m in the past, it was the only money available.
Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.
 

NorthernWisdom

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Which is irrelevant - if simms for example does score a goal every other game ultimately he will be worth a lot of money. MVE potentially as well.
Given we sold Gyokeres for 21mil, it's not unreasonable to suggest they were optimistic of doubling their money for Wright if he worked out, too, with some better exposure in a more high profile league. Simms, being younger, arguably has more promise in that regard.

Now Gyokeres is the outlier, as to get lightning to strike twice is improbable, but Simms for £10mil+ in a couple of seasons is not an unreasonable expectation from management; it's bonkers to suggest we weren't signing players with exactly the same intention as we had done before. Whether that pays off or not won't be decided on a dozen games, it'll be seen in a couple of seasons' time.
 

skybluecam

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Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.
Didn't get us promoted though did it.

We had 15 & 20m pound players in the squad for the final. If we want to go one better we need to sign more players of that calibre, and that involves spending money.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins
Ellis Simms22
Bobby Thomas22
Milan van Ewijk22
Joel Latibeaudiere23
Liam Kitching23
Jay Dasilva25
Haji Wright25
Tatsuhiro Sakamoto26
Bradley Collins26

More than half of our signings have been 23 or under. It's a very young squad. Wright sticks out, but I think issues off the pitch are affecting him.

Ultimately we have followed the same model as previously- use our budget to sign promising younger players. The only difference this season is that our budget increased. We weren't choosing to only spend 1-2m in the past, it was the only money available.
Didn't get us promoted though did it.

We had 15 & 20m pound players in the squad for the final. If we want to go one better we need to sign more players of that calibre, and that involves spending money.
Stoke spend obscene amounts every season to get nowhere near the top 6. Ipswich are spanking the league with Conor fecking Chaplin up front…
 

Greggs

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Didn't get us promoted though did it.

We had 15 & 20m pound players in the squad for the final. If we want to go one better we need to sign more players of that calibre, and that involves spending money.
How much did all those players cost?
 

skybluecam

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How much did all those players cost?
Your idea that we can somehow hope to sign another Vik and Hamer for £1m each is ridiculous.

If we continued with that approach it would be 10 years before we found similar quality players.
 

Greggs

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Your idea that we can somehow hope to sign another Vik and Hamer for £1m each is ridiculous.

If we continued with that approach it would be 10 years before we found similar quality players.
Why? Clubs do it repeatedly every season. We aren't the only team in world football signing players you know.
 

junglej13

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It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
Very easy to say in hindsight. He didn't look quick enough, strong enough or good enough when he was here. Was staggering we made a profit on him. Don't think Barnsley fans were too bothered about selling him either.
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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It was obvious Chaplin was a decent player, we never played to his strengths properly.
Not necessarily sure that was right - I agree he was a decent player, think it was a case of it just not happening.

i remember him getting a lot of chances and he kept missing/being saved - him and Luke Thomas if I recall were really wasteful
 

Skybluedownunder

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Very easy to say in hindsight. He didn't look quick enough, strong enough or good enough when he was here. Was staggering we made a profit on him. Don't think Barnsley fans were too bothered about selling him either.

We made about £100-150k on him all up MAX.
There was a sell on fee to Portsmouth included in our deal which we had to pay them out of the profits.


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Grendel

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We were offered a million for a player we hadn’t long paid just half a million for did you really expect sisu to refuse that.

Robins wanted him gone it was nothing to do with the owners
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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We were offered a million for a player we hadn’t long paid just half a million for did you really expect sisu to refuse that.
It would have been a good deal whoever the owners were as the proceeds went towards signing Godden. Chaplin was okay but wouldn’t have scored the goals to get promoted
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Might aswell start playing the little c**t everyweek asap, who fucking cares if he gets injured again?!


Yeah and he speaks highly of you too 🥱
 

Offhegoes

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Very easy to say in hindsight. He didn't look quick enough, strong enough or good enough when he was here. Was staggering we made a profit on him. Don't think Barnsley fans were too bothered about selling him either.
I liked Chaplin, and really thought he’d grow into his role here. Technically excellent. Hard worker. Was a little disappointed when we let him go, However ,his exit paved the way for Godden whose goals helped us get promotion.
As for O’Hare..He has to get match fit first, and show the injury has had no affect on his game.
After the drawn out Hamer episode , I’m resigned to the fact he’ll go, unless we shoot up the table and become serious challengers, possibly for Autos.
He left Villa to get first team football though. Would he be a guaranteed starter in The Prem?
 

Ashdown

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Someone on here suggested that all was not well in the camp with the old guard totally unimpressed with the quality and commitment of the new signings…..who will most likely be earning more money.
Callum always seemed delighted with his colleagues…..could this revelation be affecting his mind now too ?!
 

napolimp

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Spending wisely got us to the playoff final, spending stupidly got us into this current mess.

Spending wisely being the key point. You need players that fit the system you want to play, and work well with other players in your team, regardless of whether they cost 1 mil or 10 mil.
 

Deity

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Someone on here suggested that all was not well in the camp with the old guard totally unimpressed with the quality and commitment of the new signings…..who will most likely be earning more money.
Callum always seemed delighted with his colleagues…..could this revelation be affecting his mind now too ?!
Let’s blame the new players for an existing hero wanting to leave on a free. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Perish the thought that one of our existing players isn’t as committed to the club as we all hoped !

Frankly I don’t care what the old guard think of the new players. The old guard are not pulling up any trees this season and they don’t have the excuse of settling into a new club, new country etc ….
 

Esoterica

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The old guard would still be pissed off about money if Simms and Wright had 10 goals each already. Perceived quality is just an easy excuse.
 

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