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fatso

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Your house must be very interesting, though maybe not quite so much that I'd take a look. How do you think the owl will take to the crow?

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Hopefully they get along like the owl did with the pussy cat.
 

fatso

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Offhegoes

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Fair comments. The only reason I dismissed damage to the ACL was due to the fact that he attempted to cushion the ball with that leg. If the ACL had given way on his last right step, I doubt he would have committed to collecting the ball and would have gone down immediately. He is also seen holding the back of his knee as he falls to the ground (damaged meniscus) but it's unclear whether his other hand is holding the top of his shin, which is where the ACL is attached to the bone.

I'm not a doctor so I can only hope the prognosis is good for Callum and he has a speedy recovery.
Praying it's a damaged meniscus injury then. Even the worst of these (Grade 3) would mean 6-8 weeks out
 

pusbccfc

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Gutted he'll miss the Burnley game more than anything.
 

SkyblueDad

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Not been mentioned but could it be his Achilles they snap like an elastic band, he was holding the back of his calf, still a long job though if it is.
 

Kilclines curly mullet

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Praying it's a damaged meniscus injury then. Even the worst of these (Grade 3) would mean 6-8 weeks out
Not sure

Short term yes as Ohare would be back within 8 weeks

Long term potentially more issues than an ACL

I have had 3 meniscus tears / operations and there is nothing more than can be done except wait until I’m older for a replacement

There is no blood supply to the cartilage area around the meniscus meaning once it goes it goes

Sounds bizarre and of course I’m no medical expert but just making an observation
 

SkyBlueSam01

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Fair comments. The only reason I dismissed damage to the ACL was due to the fact that he attempted to cushion the ball with that leg. If the ACL had given way on his last right step, I doubt he would have committed to collecting the ball and would have gone down immediately. He is also seen holding the back of his knee as he falls to the ground (damaged meniscus) but it's unclear whether his other hand is holding the top of his shin, which is where the ACL is attached to the bone.

I'm not a doctor so I can only hope the prognosis is good for Callum and he has a speedy recovery.

Yeah I completely agree its odd that he doesnt collapse pretty immediately! Also weird that he goes for the back of his knee but the ACL is pretty deep and not really back or front.

Fingers crossed anyway...
 

SkyBlueSam01

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Not been mentioned but could it be his Achilles they snap like an elastic band, he was holding the back of his calf, still a long job though if it is.

Nah definitely seems knee to me

I'd probably rather ACL than Achilles rupture tbf... Spinazzola still isn't right after he did his at the euros
 

itsabuzzard

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Playing a recorder whilst wearing a massive food suit made of panatoni and other Italian breads. Now they associate me with delectable breads, I'm hoping that my perdinslitly and keen love of wild flying creatures will help us truly bond. I missed you whilst you were away. My missus hates talking about animals I try to make friends with.
This is why I love this site.

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SBT

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A few Patterdale terriers would of cleared 700 rats in half the time. Patterdale's are fucking viscous little killing machines.

Never has a post on here stayed with me more than this one:

 

Greggs

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Never has a post on here stayed with me more than this one:

i'll raise you

 

itsabuzzard

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Have you seen the video of a seagull nicking crisps from Tesco? Crows are far more intelligent, so the rewards of keeping a well trained one are practically endless.
Regarding the owl, I was shagging french bird that didnt like owls, so she made me trade him in. Bad, bad mistake. Going through a custody battle, but because of Brexit it's rather difficult :(
Just watched it. Hilarious! Some great vids of crows showing just how intelligent they are. Plenty ravens round here - would be cool to have a pet one. Big birds.

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fatso

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Please tell me you're making a video diary of your exploits! A bread suit - fucking awesome!
What tunes do you play on your recorder?

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He plays, when I need you, and wonderful tonight, along with hard to say I'm sorry.

He earns an honest crust and can make some useful dough.
 

itsabuzzard

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He plays, when I need you, and wonderful tonight, along with hard to say I'm sorry.

He earns an honest crust and can make some useful dough.
Well if that doesn't get them eating out of his hand, I don't know what will.

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higgs

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Massive blow to us and Callum chin up fella you will be back

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rexo87

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Question for the specialists out there. Is an ACL made more likely after a serious Hamstring injury as the Hamstring might be slightly weaker so the knee has to take more load?

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chiefdave

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Gutted for him and us. Lost out on a potential move in the summer due to injury and now this. Treatment is good these days but who knows if he'll come back the player he was.
Another one? Do other teams get this many?

Bad news
I know we're short staffed but you'd imagine we've looked to see if there's anything on the clubs side that could be causing this or if we're getting more injuries than other teams

Can't imagine we're doing anything radically different to other clubs in training that would be causing this type of injury. The only possibility is fatigue, are players being rushed back from injury and / or played when they aren't 100% fit. That would probably be more muscular injuries and not sure ACL would come under that classification

Guess at least the medical staff must be experts in how to recover from ACLs and there's players he can talk to about the mental side of things
 

CCFC54321

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Was expecting 12 months out but sounds like out till start of next season now. Shame for the lad but he’ll be back the same player.
 

SkyBlueSam01

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Question for the specialists out there. Is an ACL made more likely after a serious Hamstring injury as the Hamstring might be slightly weaker so the knee has to take more load?

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Almost certainly!

No proven link in the literature but it will definitely have had an effect (dont know if its the same leg though?).

Your ACL primarily prevents what's called anterior tibial translation (shin bone siding forward where it articulates with the femur). Your hamstrings effectively do the same thing and making them really strong is a big part of the rehab.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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The danger with the rehab from any major injury is the potential for imbalances between the muscle groups. So whilst the initial injury is dealt with there are possible problems with the ancillary muscles, due to losing condition or alternatively being a lot stronger than those in the same area. Hence, potentially putting too much strain on other areas.
Fortunately, the sports science and medical teams are aware of these potential issues and will ensure protocols to address this.
 

Offhegoes

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Will surely be at least 12 months before he's able to start a game. Gutted for the lad.
Jones came back in 8-9 months. I would hope he may play a part in pre season in July/August, and be introduced slowly from Sept / October in games
 

Offhegoes

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That's before you factor in the mental side of it and the loss of pace. Look at Jodi, lost pace and confidence.
Jodi did 3 in a row though, basically cut off 3 years of his career, and he relied on his pace. O'Hare different kind of player. He has been kicked around since he joined us and until this season was rarely injured, so naturally more robust. I think (and hope) he will come back the same player and be playing by September.
 

Paxman II

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Huge blow for us. He is absolutely key to how we play. Palmer is a reasonable replacement, but tbf we will need someone else besides. I fear we will lose Gyokeres in January so I hope Mr King has a fat cheque book at the ready and we have identified a couple of good players. Playoff ambitions look very tough at this point although the league is wide open apart from the top 2.
 

sotvtoday

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Huge blow for us. He is absolutely key to how we play. Palmer is a reasonable replacement, but tbf we will need someone else besides. I fear we will lose Gyokeres in January so I hope Mr King has a fat cheque book at the ready and we have identified a couple of good players. Playoff ambitions look very tough at this point although the league is wide open apart from the top 2.
I know I'm a pessimist as far as City are concerned, but ........

1. I don't believe Mr King will be in a position to influence January purchases (either because the EFL won't have approved him or because he'll have done a runner).

2. If Vik goes then we're looking at trying to stay out of the bottom 3 rather than getting in the top 6.
 

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