I suppose I mean after goals in big games but maybe it doesn’t. Maybe I’m blurring encroaching a few feet onto the pitch with running across the pitch after the whistle goes.
This is my point, the law seems to say that all people who enter the pitch without the refs permission should be banned. On Saturday there were other city players who were not part of the XI at that time also on the pitch and not by "10mm" by a good few feet and these weren't banned.
It’s situations like this where football makes a rod for its own back and cause unneeded controversies. Take time wasting and foul throws. Rules exist but are implemented at referees discretion and then there are arguments about why did x get booked but not y.
Is the rule even clear there? It seems odd it gets treated as a red rather than two yellows.
Should be banned? Seems very extreme. Surely you mean cautioned?
Why would a substituted player require the referees permission to re-enter the field of play. I'm struggling to think of an example of that happening in a game. Would this not be more applicable?
that only states appropriate disciplinary action, not an automatic caution, and as others have said substitutes entering the field of play to celebrate a goal happens regularly without the offending player receiving a caution, in fact there was at least 3 players off our bench on the field and only Palmer was cautioned. The game was not in play at the time and Palmers actions did nothing to delay a restart so with zero impact on the game is a caution in this case, but not when Wolves scored, appropriate and consistent?
Was clearly missed at the time and obviously the wrong call by the Referee. He will be picked up on it.
Yes, stop being pedantic and can you please explain why not everyone who entered the pitch to celebrate was cautioned?
It does read like it is aimed at players who go off say for treatment from entering play again without the refs permission.
Which makes sense as you see it enforced. Celebrating a goal not so much, although obviously subs aren’t running on the pitch every game, but it definitely happens.
I still can't defend KP doing what he did, but now you've posted this it does seem that the ref wasn't actually REQUIRED to book him, although he was entitled to if he thought it 'appropriate'. Was the ref applying the wrong rule, and does this warrant an appeal? Pretty sure it would be futile though because they wouldn't want to undermine the ref's judgement, or encourage people sprinting across the field from the bench to join in goal celebrations.
It’s a bit odd that different cards have the suspension take place in different competitions but if anything it should be the other way around and a suspension for a red be served in the specific competition.
Again, arbitrary as a yellow can lead to a ban so the impact is the same?
the law you quoted says it is, I am only going on what you posted
There's zero chance of us appealing anything, there's not even a process to do so, and even less chance of anyone admitting a mistake was made.
What about how the sanction is applied? Had he slapped a wolves player on the way back and been sent off he would be able to play at Wembley. Not sure I can make that make sense.
But as per ChiefDave's post (#220), the rule relating to a substituted player going on the pitch (which is different from the cases you have quoted) states that 'appropriate disciplinary action' should be taken, which does involve discretion.
OK that's clear enough. As discussed on here, people do seem to regularly get away with modest encroachment onto the field all the time. But how an experienced player thinks he can run right across the pitch the way KP did when the match hasn't finished is beyond me. I guess he wasn't warned by the staff before the game about suspension for 2 bookings in the FA Cup.
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So basically Palmer should have told the ref, in no uncertain terms, to “fuck off you miserable Cnut”, earning himself a second yellow for dissent.
