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Do you want to keep politics out of sport or do you want it to address it?
Do you want to keep politics out of sport or do you want it to address it?Let's hope Alex Scott does a piece on the plight of Irainian women on Monday. However , I doubt it ... BBC woke when it suits
Pray tell which boysBackward and dangerous.
In fairness, the bible says much worse…
What’s the score??I did the Prediction thing with EA sports and France won it with Argentina runners up and Brazil 3rd .. France knock us out in the quarters
"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination."(Leviticus 20:13)Pray tell which boys
Different Alex but this is tomorrowLet's hope Alex Scott does a piece on the plight of Irainian women on Monday. However , I doubt it ... BBC woke when it suits
No fan zones? Will there be beer in stadiums?No beer sold around the stadiums now! Should make for a fun atmosphere….
This event may not turn out to be the boost for Qatar’s global image that it was hoping for…
No fan zones? Will there be beer in stadiums?
So Leviticus is a book about the rules for a group of people who lived thousands of years ago and I believe there is some merit in reading and thinking about those peoples understanding of god but as for following their instruction it’s about as much use as arguing over what a batch is called"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination."(Leviticus 20:13)
Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."
New Testament Romans 1:26-27 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Revelation 21:8 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Thanks for the well thought out detailed response - genuinely. I don’t mean to be at all offensive, I was raised a Roman Catholic and come from a long line of Irish catholics. I do however disagree entirely with the entire sentiment of your response where you are trying to claim it’s not condemned in the bible. The bible condemns homosexuality quite a few times and that’s that - as much as the quran does. The difference is that there are countries such as Qatar where the religious ideologies are implemented into law.So Leviticus is a book about the rules for a group of people who lived thousands of years ago and I believe there is some merit in reading and thinking about those peoples understanding of god but as for following their instruction it’s about as much use as arguing over what a batch is called
1 Corinthians is more interesting as a letter from a church leader to a city much like our own apart from size and thousands of years of understanding. You can see though how Paul’s understanding of god has clearly evolved in the thousands of years since Leviticus
Much of that list most of us would say there’s a moral and a criminal bar that it’s unwise to cross for our own safety and others safety and it’s certainly not a measure of how gay someone is. Is the point Paul is trying to make is that we all come under the list? I know I have and do. And if so what’s the solution? For Paul and for many it’s acknowledging our wrong and relying on Gods mercy. For many it’s ignoring their wrong and judging others on things they don’t personally struggle with
The final one revelation. It’s a dream and a bloody scary one written down. I’m not convinced the things john dreamt are going to happen but it’s still wise to think about what’s written. Again the list covers many of us and where it doesn’t what would we want to happen to rapists and murderers. Should they get off Scott free? Does justice need to be seen to be done. Again this isn’t about gay people the sexually immoral term could incorporate a whole lot of us. Criminally and morally. And the solution isn’t anything goes or nothing goes except if you’re rich or powerful
The Christian answer is that god loves us so much that he wants us to experience lift in all its fullness. Some strands believe that is by picking on minority groups and saying they are wrong other strands look at how Jesus lived in the gospels and try and embody his example of love grace forgiveness peace joy etc etc
Sorry for the long answer
Qatar can do what they want. However the majority of human beings think to treat someone differently because of who they are attracted to is stupid and thick and wrong
I give a fuckHowler of a tournament already
No one gives a fuck and just wants it over for the club football to resume.
Should never have been given the tournament and the incoming shitshow will be karma for FIFA
I think I’m saying pretty much everything is condemned and therefore how do we make sense of what’s being said?Thanks for the well thought out detailed response - genuinely. I don’t mean to be at all offensive, I was raised a Roman Catholic and come from a long line of Irish catholics. I do however disagree entirely with the entire sentiment of your response where you are trying to claim it’s not condemned in the bible. The bible condemns homosexuality quite a few times and that’s that - as much as the quran does. The difference is that there are countries such as Qatar where the religious ideologies are implemented into law.
Personally think nearly all religion is poison and the world would be a much better place without any of it
I think I’m saying pretty much everything is condemned and therefore how do we make sense of what’s being said?
I think the jury is very much out on the world being a better place with or without religion.
It would certainly be a better place without humans
TrueWell it's only humans that invented religion, nobody else
If I had paid to go out there and they turn around a few days before the first game and say there would be no booze at the stadium, I would want a refund out of principal. Not because someone is going to die because you can't get a pint, but because it's just a complete joke. This must have been the plan all along.
A seriously embarrassing tournament before it has even started. I went to Qatar in 2018 and they were all so excited about this and thought it was going to be their chance to become a new Dubai, and that everyone would want to go there following. At this rate it is going to be the opposite.
Lol what would you do, ask to see the manager?
Your passive-aggressiveness on here recently is a bit concerning. Are you alright?
I think anyone that has paid to go, after the party line for several years being that even though it is in the middle east, it will still be a normal tournament experience, has a right to feel pissed off. I would never go personally, but if you had done, then there is an argument to say you've been mis-sold.
I'm doing fine man! Seen you posting a lot on the non-CCFC boards recently, are you alright?
Got to be a mad rumour. Even if it was true they'd change it now as it's everywhere.Anyone see that apparently Qatar have bribed 7 Ecuadorian players score will be 1-0 second half goal.
Ukraine and Qatar yes, the rest of the politics shite you can have for yourselves!
I presume you won't be going to the world cup then?
12 quid and only bud, doing folk a favour banning itImagine then saying beer is banned when people are flying out.
Guess they knew it would put people off
£12 a pint, within certain fan zones at certain times and people can only have 4.
He’s a moron.It was a very strange rant comparing being bullied at school as Italians didn’t have red hair to slave labour is perhaps not really comparable
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