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Beautiful challenge
Beautiful challengeIt that's a foul then the Bradley tackle against Real Madrid should have been a sending off.
Beautiful challenge
Hence why refs at grassroots are fuckedYep, I don't mind it not being given & I know that's what fans would like, but I guarantee 95% of referees would say that's a foul. Unfortunately, most fans just see "wins ball". The game has changed, the tackler is now directly responsible for his opponents welfare as well.
He went to see his chiropractorAre we sure? Has anyone checked on Mbappe?
Make the keeper go off the pitch for treatment while play continues.Simple rule for goalkeeper shithousery, if the goalkeeper goes down without any forced contact then the Referee ensures the trainers come the field to him and then after the goalkeeper decides he is fit to carry on the Referee should ask the captain to nominate an outfield player to leave the field of play for 30 seconds!
What if they’re injuredMake the keeper go off the pitch for treatment while play continues.
End of problem.
An outfield player puts the gloves on!What if they’re injured
What if they’re injured
I’d like to hear the explanation there’s no need for the aggression in the tackle and he clearly endangers the safety of the opponent
I know you and the person making the video will say he got the ball but that’s not the only consideration
The problem with that is instead of the keeper going down it will be an outfield player that just sits down faking injury. Just like yesterday
Just to get treatmentThen you substitute them.
I think he does win the foulMy boy's just done his ref course and is starting to referee games and we certainly view decisions with a different perspective now.
With this one, I can see where you're coming from Pete as Rice (I think) is off the ground as he makes the challenge -
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However, he's not endangering an opponent at this point. My issue is that Emerson endangers himself by moving his leg to 'shield' the ball in an unnatural position. Look where his right leg is above compare to -
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And the other angle shows it more clearly, he's nowhere near the ball that he's supposed to be shielding -
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So in my view, he's bought the foul by where he's planted his leg, but Rice hasn't helped himself by the leap into the challenge. Also Taylor is too close to really see what's happened.
Yeah just ban the players from going over to the sideline during any injury stoppage, book any players/send off any coaches who don’t comply. Might make coaching harder during legitimate stoppages, but that’s not the ref’s problem - it’s their own fault for abusing the system.Put a ban on players going over to the dugout when the keeper mysteriously goes down. Put them all in the centre circle.
Also agree about Taylor being too closeMy boy's just done his ref course and is starting to referee games and we certainly view decisions with a different perspective now.
With this one, I can see where you're coming from Pete as Rice (I think) is off the ground as he makes the challenge -
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However, he's not endangering an opponent at this point. My issue is that Emerson endangers himself by moving his leg to 'shield' the ball in an unnatural position. Look where his right leg is above compare to -
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And the other angle shows it more clearly, he's nowhere near the ball that he's supposed to be shielding -
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So in my view, he's bought the foul by where he's planted his leg, but Rice hasn't helped himself by the leap into the challenge. Also Taylor is too close to really see what's happened.
But an outfield player has to go off and come back on. When a keeper does that there is no such penalty. So an outfield player should have to go off instead and wait 30seconds or so before they are allowed back on.The problem with that is instead of the keeper going down it will be an outfield player that just sits down faking injury. Just like yesterday
Yeah just ban the players from going over to the sideline during any injury stoppage, book any players/send off any coaches who don’t comply. Might make coaching harder during legitimate stoppages, but that’s not the ref’s problem - it’s their own fault for abusing the system.
You can’t really do too much to disincentivise players from going down in case you end up exacerbating a genuine injury.
I don’t know, I don’t claim to have any sports physio insight. But on a basic/common sense player welfare level I don’t think you can implement a rule that would make a player think twice or feel they were at risk of being punished and/or hurting their team if they were genuinely injured.How much of a problem was exacerbating injuries before this happened? It’s a player by player thing anyway, some roll around and scream for the magic sponge and some just crack on. I’m not a physio but how many injuries are there you can actually treat pitchside and how much is just giving it a rub and waiting for the pain to subside?
I don’t know, I don’t claim to have any sports physio insight. But on a basic/common sense player welfare level I don’t think you can implement a rule that would make a player think twice or feel they were at risk of being punished and/or hurting their team if they were genuinely injured.
clearly my arseI’d like to hear the explanation there’s no need for the aggression in the tackle and he clearly endangers the safety of the opponent
I know you and the person making the video will say he got the ball but that’s not the only consideration
Says a non refereeclearly my arse
awful decision by a dogshit ref
He was good yesterday yes. Robertson was incredibly fortunate not to get booked much earlier than he did but other than that, couldn't really fault him.Anyone want to praise yesterday’s ref for the excellent decision to come back for a free kick to us after a foul and the ball squirmed through to a player in an offside position?
Seemed absolute common sense. And therefore almost certainly wrong.
He also got the Cardiff goal right - no interference with the keeper, and obvs the penalty (after a good while).
Yeah he was decent, let the game flow and didn't make any bizarre decisions.Anyone want to praise yesterday’s ref for the excellent decision to come back for a free kick to us after a foul and the ball squirmed through to a player in an offside position?
Seemed absolute common sense. And therefore almost certainly wrong.
He also got the Cardiff goal right - no interference with the keeper, and obvs the penalty (after a good while).
Pretty sure he yellow carded the keeper after the gameKeeper should have been off for two yellows tbh but would have taken a brave ref.
that is a fucking work of art. if i could frame that i wouldIt that's a foul then the Bradley tackle against Real Madrid should have been a sending off.
completely agree with this.Substitute them. Honestly at this point forget the physios etc. Players can come off at a stoppage for “treatment” or they can be subbed if they’re too injured to do that.
completely agree with this.
Assuming genuine injuries:
Scenario 1) You are injured and need some magic spray or whatever magically fixes you mid game. You make your way to the sideline for treatment either immediately or when the ball next goes out. The game does not wait for you.
Scenario 2) You are genuinely so fucked you cannot make it to the sideline yourself. Substitution must be made, no excuses.
The only sticking points comes in when people have ACLs or leg breaks but that falls under scenario 2 anyway.
Keeper was booked before penalty was taken for saying something to TorpPretty sure he yellow carded the keeper after the game
But quite often you’ll have players that are in no way medically trained basically self-certifying that they are fit. That’s no good to anyone. I seem to recall after O’Hare did his ACL he tried running it off.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s a loophole that needs closing but it ain’t easy. One thought was that you let the physio enter the field of play during play, like in rugby, but I feel football moves too quickly for that to be worthwhile.
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