I only see 1, that is the price.....
All nonsense aside .apart from shef utd we should have the best crowds.we all know that underinvestment is the reason why that is not so.
Catch 22 isn't it? Season tickets are dirt cheap, why refuse to go because of investment when not bothering yourself?All nonsense aside .apart from shef utd we should have the best crowds.we all know that underinvestment is the reason why that is not so.
Catch 22 isn't it? Season tickets are dirt cheap, why refuse to go because of investment when not bothering yourself?
I only see half of one the Optimism created by Mowbray. Bradford have the option driven by the owners and their rerecebt rekevant success.
Their price was still £50 less than ours.
They really pushed the advertising and marketing around that £149 pound price.
Catch 22 isn't it? Season tickets are dirt cheap, why refuse to go because of investment when not bothering yourself?
We have the third cheapest tickets in the league.
If we had £149 tickets I see nothing to suggest we would get hardly any more than already sold. As for marketing they have employed the strategy for years so the awareness is there.
The thing you still refuse to acknowledged is their strategy is all or nothing.
If we did it the majority would be bitching its £25 to go every match and they don't want to commit to a season.
So they'd be bitching that they only had until early July to purchase them.
If it's such a great idea why haven't others done it?
Also why were ccfc praised recently by the football league for its pricing strategy?
I only see half of one the Optimism created by Mowbray. Bradford have the option driven by the owners and their rerecebt rekevant success.
Their price was still £50 less than ours.
They really pushed the advertising and marketing around that £149 pound price.
Exactly, it would be another excuse if they were 125.Third cheapest season tickets in the league, and still not cheap enough for cov fans.
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All nonsense aside .apart from shef utd we should have the best crowds.we all know that underinvestment is the reason why that is not so.
So to clear things upCommon sense
So to clear things up
They need to drop season ticket prices so they lose money but invest loads of money before people will go?
Strange how you keep going on about people not caring for the club yet you are trying your hardest to make the decent ticket offer we had seem bad and that everything to do with the club is negative.
Yep that's exactky what I said?
Any chance of you sticking to the debate instead of making it up.
I will try again but no doubt you will change it.
They should find the figure that is low enough to cause an increase in season ticket sales. That matches the loss in the cost. As o belueve Bradford did.
I have probably only repeated that comment 5 times but I am sure you just missed it. As opposed to ignore it to twist it to make a different arguement
What have I made up? You are saying we should drop the price and people aren't going because of no investment.
No you said they should drop them the same as bradfords but there's not much proof we wouldn't lose money is there. The tickets have already have a decent discount.You said I said the club should lose money?
No I didnt
No you said they should drop them the same as bradfords but there's not much proof we wouldn't lose money is there. The tickets have already have a decent discount.
For somebody who keeps going on about the club and city, you would think you would be encouraging as many as possible to get down and support the club every match rather than trying to find things you can be negative about.
We have the third cheapest in the league, is there really an issue? If they were the cheapest in the league there would be another excuse why people don't bother.
For clarity posted very early in my contribution to this debate.........
For the record I think we should do a ridiculously cheap season ticket that will still gives us the same revenue generated by fewer sales of a more expensive season ticket. Also the increase in sales covers the ability to sell season tickets for under 16's sold with an adult ticket for free.
We should also have the deal on throughout the summer so when we make marque signings we get the full impact of the reaction.
Maybe you should encourage people by not been negative about your fellow fans and the City itself. For example Coventry City Centre which is improving day by day.
Our City is a good City
Our fans are good fans. Like ALL clubs. They just need a bit coming back the other way to stoke the fires. It's not always a one way flow of tragic which it has been since a change of policy from investing in the best promising talent we can afford with a view of improving the club whilst selling them on for a profit.
For clarity posted very early in my contribution to this debate.........
For the record I think we should do a ridiculously cheap season ticket that will still gives us the same revenue generated by fewer sales of a more expensive season ticket. Also the increase in sales covers the ability to sell season tickets for under 16's sold with an adult ticket for free.
We should also have the deal on throughout the summer so when we make marque signings we get the full impact of the reaction.
Maybe you should encourage people by not been negative about your fellow fans and the City itself. For example Coventry City Centre which is improving day by day.
Our City is a good City
Our fans are good fans. Like ALL clubs. They just need a bit coming back the other way to stoke the fires. It's not always a one way flow of tragic which it has been since a change of policy from investing in the best promising talent we can afford with a view of improving the club whilst selling them on for a profit.
Catch 22 isn't it? Season tickets are dirt cheap, why refuse to go because of investment when not bothering yourself?
It's up the club to encourage fans to commit to a St .that's how football works.anyone that watched last year's shambles are going to need a lot of convincing. That's the problem.
They should find the figure that is low enough to cause an increase in season ticket sales. That matches the loss in the cost.
Out of interest, what do think that would be, roughly?
Too many on here believe that Mobray is the messiah, I have heard this too many times so will reserve my opinion until we get in the playoffs minimum, anything less and he is only as good as what went before.
They should find the figure that is low enough to cause an increase in season ticket sales. That matches the loss in the cost.
With this seasons price reduction it looks like we're still struggling to increase sales therefore total season ticket revenues will be lower. Surely then using your argument they should put the price back up not reduce further?
Out of interest, what do think that would be, roughly?
A top half finish would be an improvement.
Scoring goals would be an improvement...
Exactly right.
But some will still blame the supporters for not going.
I go every week sometimes take lapsed City supporters all you get is do you actually watch this shit every week....
Come on how do I defend that comment they are right.
I don't see it changing much this season but hey I will still be there, too many on here believe that Mobray is the messiah, I have heard this too many times so will reserve my opinion until we get in the playoffs minimum, anything less and he is only as good as what went before.
It would be down to the club mate, to use a marketing expert in order to forecast the price that would lead to the maximum increase in crowd. That could counter and match the loss in revenue from the price drop.
However when you see that Bradfords drop in price from 199 to 149 has lead to a 50% increase in season ticket sales.
I appreciate they have more optimism than us. However I still believe the price will be the most powerful factor. The optimism bit will explain why they are talking 18k and we would talking 9k.
So their drop in price of £50 led to a 50% increase in season ticket sales.
If we dropped ours by £50 to £199. If we matched them and got a 50% increase in season ticket sales.
That would be 9000 season ticket holders.
Of our current 6000 probably only half are paying full price so that is a loss of £150000.
However let's look at the most extreme example that all 6000 are paying the full £249. We lose £50 ahead. So you lose £300000.
You get your extra 3000 sales under 16 are free with a full paying adult.
So again worst case scenario you only get 1500 of the extra 3000 paying the £199. You gain £298500
We now get access to match day revenues as part of the loan deal. So ontop of a better atmosphere in the group you make more profit from that. Also the shop is finally returning to its rightful place
So there will be money to be made there as well.
It would be down to the club mate, to use a marketing expert in order to forecast the price that would lead to the maximum increase in crowd. That could counter and match the loss in revenue from the price drop.
However when you see that Bradfords drop in price from 199 to 149 has lead to a 50% increase in season ticket sales.
I appreciate they have more optimism than us. However I still believe the price will be the most powerful factor. The optimism bit will explain why they are talking 18k and we would talking 9k.
So their drop in price of £50 led to a 50% increase in season ticket sales.
If we dropped ours by £50 to £199. If we matched them and got a 50% increase in season ticket sales.
That would be 9000 season ticket holders.
Of our current 6000 probably only half are paying full price so that is a loss of £150000.
However let's look at the most extreme example that all 6000 are paying the full £249. We lose £50 ahead. So you lose £300000.
You get your extra 3000 sales under 16 are free with a full paying adult.
So again worst case scenario you only get 1500 of the extra 3000 paying the £199. You gain £298500
We now get access to match day revenues as part of the loan deal. So ontop of a better atmosphere in the group you make more profit from that. Also the shop is finally returning to its rightful place
So there will be money to be made there as well.
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