Old Peugeot works was mentioned and not the training ground
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Old Peugeot works was mentioned and not the training ground
shy_tall_knight
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SISU will not be building a ground at Ryton - it will cost a minimum of £20m, a few years of planning permission and if you think the Ricoh is a bit out of town, well Ryton's worse. A good portion of the city of Coventry can walk to the Ricoh Holbronx, Keresley Foleshill, Longford, Even Willenhall is too far to walk to Ryton and includes negotiating Kami Kazi island. wolston & ryton village would dig their heals in regarding any such development.
Indeed, although there isn't much residential around there, and it is a brownfield site, so if it went to public enquiry it might go through, but then that process would take years.
It isn't feasible for a number of reasons, but it's just what I've heard so we'll see.
Just can't work out how this can end well for SISU. I suspect we are now into the realms of settling scores and everything else is just a sideshow.
oldskyblue58
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as i understand it the "plan" is to build on a site that enables a developer to come in to do it building of shops etc and throwing in most of the cost of a new stadium, club picks up say 5m or 6m of the cost. If thats the case what is left at Ryton isnt big enough and would still require CCC involvement because of the road upgrades etc required. If that is the plan you could expect a flat packed stadium because it would be done as cheap and quickly as possible.
Right now there are not many of those builds going on in the country let alone round here
Right now there are not many of those builds going on in the country let alone round here
oldskyblue58
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I think that's what we're all trying to work out really! There must be a plan in there to maximise their return at least, managers of investment funds don't have investors put their money in if they deliberately lose it.
Failed ventures they can accept, wilful loss of cash less so!
chiefdave
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I'm not in favour of playing any home games outside of Coventry but given the status of things between SISU and ACL there absolutely has to be a contingency plan. To not have one means that should we get to the start of the season without an agreement to play at the Ricoh we are thrown out of the league and almost certainly will then cease to exisit. What should be made clear that is that playing at the Ricoh (or elsewhere in Cov) is priority and the effect on crowds should a move, even if temporary, be made.
The rules say a move out of the city can only be temporary so what happens if SISU say to the FL it's a temporary move while we build a new stadium and then that stadium build never happens. At what point do the FL step in and what are the sanctions?
The rules say a move out of the city can only be temporary so what happens if SISU say to the FL it's a temporary move while we build a new stadium and then that stadium build never happens. At what point do the FL step in and what are the sanctions?
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That's my other concern. SISU just don't do investment like this, and if they did it wouldn't be a build for the long term!
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With Rotherham they gave them a time limit. I assume if their ground had been late they'd have been allowed an extension if it was obviously nearly done. If the first brick hadn't been laid, I'd assume they'd have been chucked out.
Don't think for one minute that I believe it can happen or should happen, but the Ryton site is twice the size of the Ricoh and Arena Shopping Park combined. Space wouldn't be an issue, nor would I suspect road upgrades - since the Highways Agency are planning to upgrade the area around Toll Bar anyway. The old Ryton plant used to accommodate thousands of workers - and operated around the clock pretty much every day of the year. A football crowd 20 odd times a year wouldn't really be an issue.
I'm just playing devil's advocate trying to understand what their thinking is, because I am as sure as I can be that our future is at the Ricoh.
Flying Fokker
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shy_tall_knight
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I think employees at a factory v crowds at a football game are beyond compare, do you think ryton village when there is a local derby or leeds / cardiff in town would resemble 10 years ago when the factory was in full swing.
I was clearly talking about road infrastructure and traffic volume. That is another issue entirely, but equally wouldn't be valid grounds on which to reject a planning application at public enquiry. 'Our pubs will be full of non-locals for 3 hours 25 times a year' won't really stand up.
Keep coming back to the same point, it won't happen. Looking at it purely from a planning perspective alone though, it is at least possible. We'll see if this application goes in - because clearly if the club plan to relocate for a time then any announcement to that effect would be accompanied by detailed plans of their new stadium proposal, and I don't think we are far away from that point.
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Bugger all pubs now there's no Dilke or Bull and Butcher.
oldskyblue58
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hate to say it but i had one many many years ago............ was the cheapest car to run i have ever owned
Bluegloucester
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Saddo!.....
Really? Haven't been up there for years. All the more reason to bin the idea of sticking a football stadium there.
Flying Fokker
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I had a Sky Blue Peugeot 309 D903 CWK.... A project for some kind of competition. It has a slogan 'The Ryton Lion'
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skyblue2k
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There is a massive 300,000 sq ft Network Rail distribution warehouse at Ryton now, smack bang in the centre of the plot.
dongonzalos
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My concern is, if the administrator does favour SISU, they will just buy back their own debt
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oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
such were the finances of a trainee accountant with a mortgage Bg ........... needs must and all that ..............
Bluegloucester
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Did you have a large tin of rust remover?
Spite??
She never gets bettered,lose, she will ensure we all lose, or somehow it all benefits some weird accounting scheme
AFCCOVENTRY
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Not that simple. There would have to be a vote by creditors and independents. They wouldn't be allowed to make over 50% of the voting crowd anyway.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
no just dark glasses and a hoodie so no one recognised me :laugh:
if you are selling tickets to the head banging Paxman put me down for some !
Put it on at the RICOH ,would sell out ,put em in Cages till someone comes out victorious
Bluegloucester
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Sounda like Joy!
Voice_of_Reason
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Yes ! Yes ! Yes --- don't SISU realize nobody likes or wants them ?
Something like £25M. for a 12K. capacity Stadium.
dongonzalos
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jaymo132
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.Weren't sisu happy with the reduced rent they were offered.Fisher said it was the match day revenue they were after.not going to get any match day revenue if we play somewhere else.All we will be doing is putting money into another clubs pockets.If that's the logical way sisu think i can see why we're in this mess.