The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (82 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
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westcountry_skyblue

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If you can be proud to vote for child porn and IRA apologists and people who want to sell the countries assets to the highest bidders in America then good for you. Everyone is entitled to their vote.
Yes snowflake they are!!!:happy::cigar:
 

fernandopartridge

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Does this mean child pornography should not be banned? Indeed it does not, says Claire Fox. In a podcast interview, the Daily Telegraph‘s Christopher Hope asked: ‘You don’t think jihadi videos should be banned but you do think child pornography should be banned from the internet?
Fox: ‘I think child pornography itself is illegal and therefore it wouldn’t exist, yeah.’
Hope: ‘But the videos…’
Fox: ‘I do not want to give the state and the authorities the right to ban things on the internet. No ifs.’
Presented with her comments by Robert Peston last week, Nigel Farage said: ‘She’s a well-respected commentator, a clear thinker.’
Such are the candidates for the patriotic and decent Brexit party. Three points are worth noting.
Right-wingers condemn Jeremy Corbyn for good reasons. But if they don’t condemn the Brexit Party for the same reasons, they are the most awful hypocrites
 

Gazolba

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So is someone going to come in to replace May and magically find consensus among all the parties?

Even if we somehow end up remaining in the EU, we've lost all credibility as a nation and will forever be looked on with suspicion.
 

djr8369

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2014 - UKIP wins EU election

2015 - Tories win promising EU ref

2016 - Leave campaign wins

2017 - Tory and Labour win 80% votes by saying they will deliver on brexit

2019 - Brexit party wins EU election


If only the people had been clear hey

Yes, we’re leaving. Get over it.


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SkyblueBazza

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What don’t I get I get? It seems it’s you who doesn’t get it again.

Yes, the Brexit party will pick up about a third of the vote.

Yes, this will send a message.

But the Brexit party will not be able to action their single policy from the European Parliament. This is irrefutable. Once again Brexit is an expression of anger and frustration with little consideration of practicalities or logic.


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People maybe feel they NEED to send the message regardless of the impact it has on EU shenanigans. The NEED stems from the perception that their so-called representatives are wantonly ignoring them

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SkyblueBazza

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All emotive stuff though isn't it? The UK & EU establishments MUST have forseen this but chose to say nothing...maybe with view to discrediting the anticipated outcome. Had we not held the election - they & the EU were not especially bothered about their votes being cast either way - otherwise they would have made the mechanism for their votes to be cast very public. They chose not to.

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djr8369

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People maybe feel they NEED to send the message regardless of the impact it has on EU shenanigans. The NEED stems from the perception that their so-called representatives are wantonly ignoring them

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The key word here being perception. The legal process to leave has been instigated. Brexit has been the only thing on the national agenda for three years.

The problem is Brexiters cannot decide amongst themselves how to leave and have completely changed their demands since the referendum. If anything the issue is giving their opinion too much weight rather than not enough.


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OffenhamSkyBlue

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Did i dream we had an election yesterday? There is not ONE SHRED of news about it this morning! Do we have to delay the count until all other countries have voted (Sunday, i think), in case the rest of Europe are so feckin' obsessed by the UK's opinion that their own polls may be skewed?
 

Grendel

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Did i dream we had an election yesterday? There is not ONE SHRED of news about it this morning! Do we have to delay the count until all other countries have voted (Sunday, i think), in case the rest of Europe are so feckin' obsessed by the UK's opinion that their own polls may be skewed?

Yes hilarious but true
 

Grendel

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May gone thank God
 

djr8369

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I wonder if one of the brexiteers will step up and take the job or will they all fall by the wayside again and ask a remainer to deliver the unicorn so they have someone to point the finger at again.

Going to be interesting if it’s someone like Johnson, would he have the balls to pull the trigger on no deal or the balls to try and make people understand it’s untenable?


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skybluetony176

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Going to be interesting if it’s someone like Johnson, would he have the balls to pull the trigger on no deal or the balls to try and make people understand it’s untenable?


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Whichever he thinks will be more popular would be my guess.
 

Astute

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No but they don’t relate to this discussion of what was on the ballot paper.


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Wasn't just about what was on the ballot paper though was it.

OK what was missing from the ballot paper? Let me take an educated guess.

Remain whatever

Leave, but only if.....

Then keep on repeating the only ifs until every base is covered.
 

Astute

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The blue patches generally represent densely populated regions, so it doesn't say it all at all, the result was nearly 50:50
The result was 51.8% v 48.2%. But Ireland and Scotland were heavily in favour of remain. England voted much more to leave. And as power is held by those in power in England the leave direction will always be favourite.
 

djr8369

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Wasn't just about what was on the ballot paper though was it.

OK what was missing from the ballot paper? Let me take an educated guess.

Remain whatever

Leave, but only if.....

Then keep on repeating the only ifs until every base is covered.

I’m sorry but this post doesn’t relate to anything I’ve said.

What point do you want to make?


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Astute

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If you can be proud to vote for child porn and IRA apologists and people who want to sell the countries assets to the highest bidders in America then good for you. Everyone is entitled to their vote.
So you don't have a clue about EU rules and regulations then. Or is it OK to be bought up by other Europeans but not anyone else?
 

djr8369

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The result was 51.8% v 48.2%. But Ireland and Scotland were heavily in favour of remain. England voted much more to leave. And as power is held by those in power in England the leave direction will always be favourite.

Good point but he was merely pointing out that the result of the vote was based on overall percentages not what constituency voted what.


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djr8369

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So you don't have a clue about EU rules and regulations then. Or is it OK to be bought up by other Europeans but not anyone else?

I was talking specifically about Farage wanting to privatise the NHS and his American connections.


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Astute

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I’m sorry but this post doesn’t relate to anything I’ve said.

What point do you want to make?


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Exactly.

You said we were just talking about the Brexit vote paper. We wasn't, but then I asked you what was missing from the ballot paper. Yet you still say it wasn't what we were talking about.

So what were we talking about then?
 

Grendel

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Good point but he was merely pointing out that the result of the vote was based on overall percentages not what constituency voted what.


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The country was divided into 9 regions wasn’t it?
 

djr8369

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Exactly.

You said we were just talking about the Brexit vote paper. We wasn't, but then I asked you what was missing from the ballot paper. Yet you still say it wasn't what we were talking about.

So what were we talking about then?

I wasn’t saying anything was missing. What are you talking about?


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