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Let's not. Look what the previous poll and thread has turned into!
Let's not. Look what the previous poll and thread has turned into!Should do a poll again to see what people on SBT would vote today
What the Tories say and what the public think are not the same.Well the tories are still occasionally using the look what we inherited line so he should be able to get away with it for at least a decade.
So using your argument about manifesto's mentioning rejoining the EU not being a vote winner, if the public didn't want Maastricht surely at least one of them would have taken the plunge to say they weren't going to do it? So as they all did put it in, every single one must have been confident of it being a popular stance, or at the very least not unpopular enough to hamper their chances of election?
I know of people living in an EU country or were planning to move to one who voted leave thinking it wouldn't make any difference to them. Some even did it as they didn't want more from the UK moving in.Just looking at the top of the page says leave had more votes on here .. my vote would be different now for starters
Fair enough. I agree that it wouldn't be a vote winner, even though I think it would be a policy that would be better for the U.K. overall if we could rejoin on similar terms.that’s exactly my point - so if leaving the eu was so unpopular stick it in the manifesto to return - win by a landslide
We will be. Minimum school holidays are 2 weeks in France. Motorhome will always be packed and ready to go.Your travelling around in a camper van aren’t you?
I'm talking about Labour voters. The problem we usually have with Labour is there are two sides to the party.Well the tories are still occasionally using the look what we inherited line so he should be able to get away with it for at least a decade.
My guess would be most Tory voters would vote leave. Then the Labour voters would be split. That would hand it to the Tories.Fair enough. I agree that it wouldn't be a vote winner, even though I think it would be a policy that would be better for the U.K. overall if we could rejoin on similar terms.
Many of those that voted leave last time will either still have the same perceptions on whatever it was they didn't like before, and those that were fooled by the misrepresentations, half truths and falsehoods last time would more than likely fall for a whole new set of them this time. There would undoubtedly be some who just couldn't bear to vote differently and be seen to have been wrong and would stick with it to the very bitter end regardless of how bad the situation became, refusing to accept Brexit was the reason
Is that why you voted leave, out of interest?I know of people living in an EU country or were planning to move to one who voted leave thinking it wouldn't make any difference to them.
Where did you get that from?Is that why you voted leave, out of interest?
Your posts saying you were voting leave.Where did you get that from?
We're still heavily involved with each other. It is trade and freedom of movement that has suffered the most.So it turns out the crap about the EU needing the UK more than the other way around because the country buys car and cheese was a load of shite - what a surprise.
Other than a slight wobble for a week or so when you were all on the total attack and seeing nothing but lies on here at the same time as when the fraudulent things from the EU were being exposed no.Your posts saying you were voting leave.
The problem I have with you is the over-defensiveness when people ask a perfectly reasonable question on the back of posts from Steve and Evo. Steve voted leave, Evo voted leave, and are happy to say they've changed their mind. You, however, go into full victim mode and overly wordy bollocks, rather than just fronting it up.ther than a slight wobble for a week or so when you were all on the total attack and seeing nothing but lies on here at the same time as when the fraudulent things from the EU were being exposed no.
Point out any time the same old people don't gang up and attack anyone who dares to say anything different to what is allowed to be said freely? Just like right now.The problem I have with you is the over-defensiveness when people ask a perfectly reasonable question on the back of posts from Steve and Evo. Steve voted leave, Evo voted leave, and are happy to say they've changed their mind. You, however, go into full victim mode and overly wordy bollocks, rather than just fronting it up.
It's really rather tiresome, this paranoia that this board is out to get you and full-on denial.
Point out any time the same old people don't gang up and attack anyone who dares to say anything different to what is allowed to be said freely? Just like right now.
We dropped all the cards. Not that we were ever holding them all in the first place.So it turns out the crap about the EU needing the UK more than the other way around because the country buys car and cheese was a load of shite - what a surprise.
Don't be such a pathetic old woman.
Me pathetic?Don't be such a pathetic old woman.
Didn't vote leave for your younger children after all then? That was just written for a laugh, then? So that therefore means that what you write now is the truth, because only you know the truth, but we're expected to distinguish that from when you write the lies? Fancy writing eleventy billion words about how I'm out to get you in conjunction with some other posters?Me pathetic?
OK you win. I voted to leave when I wanted to move to an EU country. Corbyn would have made a brilliant PM. It isn't the far left that keeps the Tories in and I always vote Tory.
Satisfied now?
Have fun
Me pathetic?
OK you win. I voted to leave when I wanted to move to an EU country. Corbyn would have made a brilliant PM. It isn't the far left that keeps the Tories in and I always vote Tory.
Satisfied now?
Have fun
They'll be leaving the CBS with 0 pointsSunderland voted Leave didn’t it?
Story/Rumour doing the rounds this morning that Suella Braverman is threatening to resign if Sunak pursues his “fix” to the NI protocol.
At last. A tangible brexit benefit.
Then again if she was the best person they could find for Home Secretary how shit is the next person going to be?
3-4% of inflation directly related to the decision to leave the eu
We will be. Minimum school holidays are 2 weeks in France. Motorhome will always be packed and ready to go.
My 21 year old daughter is already looking at buying a house with her boyfriend. They have a budget of €60,000. That will get them a 3 bed detached house in a nice area.
Story/Rumour doing the rounds this morning that Suella Braverman is threatening to resign if Sunak pursues his “fix” to the NI protocol.
At last. A tangible brexit benefit.
Then again if she was the best person they could find for Home Secretary how shit is the next person going to be?
Prices in rural France are low. Really low.How can any house in France be 60,000 Euros?
Prices in rural France are low. Really low.
Sunak’s going to bring on Nadine Dorries for the last 5 to run at their tired legs.‘Jonathan Gullis is stripped off and warming up Clive, the crowd seem excited’
Fair enough. I agree that it wouldn't be a vote winner, even though I think it would be a policy that would be better for the U.K. overall if we could rejoin on similar terms.
Many of those that voted leave last time will either still have the same perceptions on whatever it was they didn't like before, and those that were fooled by the misrepresentations, half truths and falsehoods last time would more than likely fall for a whole new set of them this time. There would undoubtedly be some who just couldn't bear to vote differently and be seen to have been wrong and would stick with it to the very bitter end regardless of how bad the situation became, refusing to accept Brexit was the reason
But my point was that it was argued that supposedly we've been hating what the EU was becoming for a long time and how it has become more than a trading bloc, but all the parties supported Maastricht. If we truly thought the EU was overreaching its desired aims, surely at least one party would have the stance of being against a treaty which seemed to show it was doing exactly that? Which suggests displeasure among the UK electorate about the EU wasn't as strong as was suggested.
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