I love green energy solutions SB......I even vote Green despite knowing its a waste of my time.....but wind turbines are not green....
Would you like to point it out then as it isn't what Barnier said.That would be very unlikely, especially as they'd also have protections thanks to a cetrain treaty. I can't remember the name of it now. The UK is the one responsible for the uncertainty; the government has openly admitted it!!
Would you like to point it out then as it isn't what Barnier said.
So you think it is right that we should agree to pay what we don't know what we are paying before we can say to those that have moved to the UK that they will be able to stay?
There is always an according to some.
Nothing can touch what Luxembourg has done.
No comment on Barnier using legal citizens as a bargaining chip then?No comment on the Tories' use of legal citizens as bargaining chips then?
Still won't have anything said against Luxembourg and Juncker will you?According to you.
No comment on Barnier using legal citizens as a bargaining chip then?
It is the EU that won't put millions of people's mind at rest until money has been spoken about. But you make out that it is the other way round.
Look at how many billions they need so it can go to the wrong places in Italy.
Why?We should sign up for what we do know and leave the details for later. As Barnier suggests.
Have you forgotten that we have already said that everyone can stay. But the EU hasn't said a word about those from the UK living in the EU. And you are one of them.The U.K. could show how great it is compared to the evil EU simply by guaranteeing EU citizens who are here that they will retain all rights that have now. Money is one thing, but citizens rights should be guaranteed as a priority - by both sides.
Still won't have anything said against Luxembourg and Juncker will you?
Why?
You won't mind us paying untold billions to the EU as it won't cost you a penny. It is us that live in the UK that will have to pay for it.
Have you forgotten that we have already said that everyone can stay. But the EU hasn't said a word about those from the UK living in the EU. And you are one of them.
Is that why you are desperate to get your German citizenship?
This comment shows that you only remember the posts you don't like against the EU and Juncker and don't remember the ones you agree with.Constantly do have things said against Luxemburg, but if there is going to be a clean up, let’s make it comprehensive and not just that companies like Apple move their cash to Jersey from Luxemburg. Otherwise it seems like you just hate Juncker and the EU and don’t care about tax dodging.
And nothing to do with the way the EU is taking it?I am desperate to get German citizenship because I don’t like the way things are heading and won’t rely on Davis, Johnson, Gove and co. for my future well being. May doesn’t count. She is just piggy in the middle until she falls.
Treat which two things differently?I said treat the two things as different. Which is a bit different to what you say I said.
The U.K. could show how great it is compared to the evil EU simply by guaranteeing EU citizens who are here that they will retain all rights that have now. Money is one thing, but citizens rights should be guaranteed as a priority - by both sides.
Treat which two things differently?
And nothing to do with the way the EU is taking it?
The UK wanted to guarantee citizens rights from day one, so already has the moral high ground on this point but on the basis that your EU friends want to use them as bargaining chips then we are absolutely correct to do the same.
James Dyson has got it right. Walk away from these non-negotiating time wasters and the important players will come chasing deals.
No comment on Barnier using legal citizens as a bargaining chip then?
It is the EU that won't put millions of people's mind at rest until money has been spoken about. But you make out that it is the other way round.
Look at how many billions they need so it can go to the wrong places in Italy.
I finally admit defeat and admit it is a waste of time trying to have a debate with you. You ignore the truth and make your own story up all the time.Citizenship and what we owe above membership until we leave and any liabilities that we agreed to.
Why can't we agree on a deal for that right now when they say it is all about agreed already?The EU isn't using them as bargaining chips. You'd make a great spin doctor for the Tories.
The EU isn't using them as bargaining chips. You'd make a great spin doctor for the Tories.
That got ignored earlier when I mentioned it as usual.So the Eu have granted permanent residency for all uk citizens in Europe? Missed that one
So the Eu have granted permanent residency for all uk citizens in Europe? Missed that one
Why can't we agree on a deal for that right now when they say it is all about agreed already?
I suspect that the EU doesn't really trust the UK at the moment. The government is also seen as being extremely weak and out of its depth.
I suspect that the UK doesn't really trust the EU at the moment. Germany is struggling to form a government, Spain is in a constitutional crisis, ultra-right parties are on the rise across the continent and we are dealing with a non-entity called Barnier who is extremely weak and out of his depth.
I finally admit defeat and admit it is a waste of time trying to have a debate with you. You ignore the truth and make your own story up all the time.
It was Juncker who said that we had to come to agreement with a leaving penalty, citizens rights and what will happen with Ireland before we can go onto a trade deal. And all 3 must be signed at the same time.
And yes I called it a penalty. We have agreed up until 2019 what the budget is. But the EU wants much more. So they want much more than we had already agreed.
It's strange that the UK has continually made concessions though, isn't it?
I suspect that the UK doesn't really trust the EU at the moment. Germany is struggling to form a government, Spain is in a constitutional crisis, ultra-right parties are on the rise across the continent and we are dealing with a non-entity called Barnier who is extremely weak and out of his depth.
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