Grendel
Well-Known Member
I think your confusing Junker original 50 billion which did not include projects beyond the initial contribution I have the breakdown now.
Will do later on am at work at the moment, had to avoid coming on here as they start going through our Internet history haha
The same veto that Juncker is going on about getting rid of?Again. It’s called the power of veto.
Oh hello tiny. This is an article that appeared in the Times. It actually says although it would be less than £84 billion net it’s considerably more than the £50 billion originally proposed by Junke. It says that in the article Tiny.
Furthermore the £40 billion includes funding the two year transition so the net figure comparison is less than £20 billion
Anyway this might be all confusing for you so the devils in the detail
The detail being in the article stating the net figure is considerably more than the £50 billion originally proposed.
Can’t you read Tiny?
The same veto that Juncker is going on about getting rid of?
I have the full breakdown of what he demands but will not be able to link as it’s an FT article.
Just to put Tony’s mind (lol) at rest and save him checking with the welsh branch of the EU the total projection that barnier demanded was e111 billion and the rebate around 35 billion (min 29 max 42) so the net figure is around 75 to 80 billion.
Cameron gave away some of the rebate that Maggie got. I don't trust politicians.Something we could have vetoed.
Cameron gave away some of the rebate that Maggie got. I don't trust politicians.
My mind at rest? It was me who advised you to find some different “evidence” because the article you originally linked as evidence contradicted you. Seems you took my advice to put your own mind at rest you little joker you.
I have the full breakdown of what he demands but will not be able to link as it’s an FT article.
Just to put Tony’s mind (lol) at rest and save him checking with the welsh branch of the EU the total projection that barnier demanded was e111 billion and the rebate around 35 billion (min 29 max 42) so the net figure is around 75 to 80 billion.
The actual article I posted said it was considerably more than 50 million you clueless fool
Oh ok then is that the rules ok then i think you should be ashamed of your vote. Actually no it doesn’t I don’t want to stoop to your level. I respect the way you voted but disagree, you disagree and are ashamed of how I voted.
You don’t look any better than trump or Putin.
You’re delusional. Where on the ballot paper did it show me remain asking for more countries to join and to give up more legislations and laws? An eu army? To join the euro? An eu superstate?
Just so you know we have had a common travel area dating back to early 1920’s when North and Southern Ireland split. Over 50 years before we joined the EU. Hope this helps.
You're bonkers.No. You are the one claiming that everything was Honky Dory as regards we had everything in the 60s, and not noticing the increase in soft fruits or flights. Desperate stuff indeed.
You're bonkers.
Totally and utterly bonkers.What crime wave? The number of violent crimes committed by extreme groups has rocketed, especially right wing groups. Burglary from Croatian, Hungarian and Ukrainian gangs.
All new entrans to the EU now have to take up the Euro.
Can you guarantee that we wouldn't have to take it up in the future?
You are and you've proved it time & time again over 276 pages.I am certainly not, but could be excused if I were for putting up with some of the crap on here. Any Breibart news to quote today?
Totally and utterly bonkers.
You are and you've proved it time & time again over 276 pages.
The same veto that Juncker is going on about getting rid of?
Totally and utterly bonkers.
You deny that it the rise in violence has, in part, to do with right wing groups? Some drunken right winger tried to kill a mayor the day before yesterday because he didn’t like the integration policy. You never mentioned that. You would have if a Muslim had done it though.
This debate is already dead.
Right wing violence has grown for pretty much only one reason: This is the mass migration of people with different belief systems (mainly muslim) from third world countries forced by weak governments across Europe that seem pretty hand in hand with these individuals on the idea that our culture, way of life, and heritage is destroyed. Couple this is in with the growing violence that has come with it... This includes muggings, sexual assaults, gang violence, and terrorism.
Politicians won't listen. The left shout racist. Some people take it into their own hands.
P.S. Most of the incidents involving migrant crime across Europe are not being reported, especially in Sweden. Even with that in the way, I could have still probably doubled this thread in length containing incidents involving them since the day it was started.
This debate is already dead.
Right wing violence has grown for pretty much only one reason: This is the mass migration of people with different belief systems (mainly muslim) from third world countries forced by weak governments across Europe that seem pretty hand in hand with these individuals on the idea that our culture, way of life, and heritage is destroyed. Couple this is in with the growing violence that has come with it... This includes muggings, sexual assaults, gang violence, and terrorism.
Politicians won't listen. The left shout racist. Some people take it into their own hands.
P.S. Most of the incidents involving migrant crime across Europe are not being reported, especially in Sweden. Even with that in the way, I could have still probably doubled this thread in length containing incidents involving them since the day it was started.
It's hard not to disagree with most of that. If governments were not forever pandering to the shouty outraged left wing PC morons and stuck to common sense, statistics and credible evidence there would not be a platform for right wing lunatics to jump on either. In the UK way too many crimes are being committed by newly arrived foreigners from third world countries and with a third world mentality on life and crime, the papers and media are full of them and not just the right wing press.
The UK is portrayed across the world as the land of milk and honey and when individuals risk life and limb to travel half way across the middle east or Africa to get here and then find it's actually still quite tough at the bottom end of society, that is when the envy, greed and trouble and criminality starts. They also quickly realise our security forces, border control, police and court sentences are mostly laughably soft.
A gradual trickle of capable and skilled migrants is fabulous for most countries but the shit storm Blair, Merkel and Co have released over the last 20 years is a living nightmare at times and will only get worse.
I think demands were made rather than requests. Good on the countries which have the balls to say no.Countries have been asked to share the burden of refugees.
Mart, the picture is forming of you here and it is one of a person obsessed with right wing head cases. Problem is you keep suggesting anyone of a different view to you must come into that category !
I think demands were made rather than requests. Good on the countries which have the balls to say no.
If it is a nightmare why do you live here and not Italy as you keep telling us?What have illegal migrants entering the UK got to do with the EU?
The UK is a living nightmare? Get some fucking perspective.
If it is a nightmare why do you live here and not Italy as you keep telling us?
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