The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (27 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Name one sovereign nation whose democratic opposition to the eu diktat that has been respected........

France? No. Holland? No. Ireland? No. Greece? No. UK? ....tbc.
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Every member state has the power of veto. Name one member state government who isn’t going to use that power to stop themselves apparently becoming little more than a local EU council. They’re not are they.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
Because it’s not part of the EU. There is nothing that they can do. Same as the Isle of Man.
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Whilst the British Gov't can do something about...maybe they have? Don't know myself - maybe companies & individuals are more wary after recent 'outing' of this sort of thing in the national media?

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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
And what was it you said to Grendel? Something about one anecdote...

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We had the discussion on Jersey before. Jersey did a deal in the Blair era which effected EU countries and involved passing information to EU countries of residence. That is not an anecdote. I posted the latest Romanian figures and explained that if you took out the world crash 2008 and 2009, you get a clearer picture of what is actually happening. That is not an anecdote.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
One view from Bulgaria:

„Despite the slow progress, we are happier than a decade ago or so it seems. Compared to ten years ago, a larger percentage of Bulgarians and Romanians are satisfied with the lives they lead, as the Eurobarometer public opinion reports from 2007 and 2016 show.“
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Who said that? Bulgaria's Minister for EU or similar? Or maybe your mate?

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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
„The minimum salary in Romania rose ten times its nominal value in less than 20 years. This helps to explain the transformation that the Romanian economy is facing, attracting a number of companies, investors and immigrants to the country.“

Depends when you start counting. Wages growing now.
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To keep up with inflation perhaps

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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
To keep up with inflation perhaps

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Romania Core Inflation Rate
Core consumer prices in Romania increased 2.20 percent in February of 2018 over the same month in the previous year. Core Inflation Rate in Romania averaged 5.67 percent from 2001 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 29.70 percent in December of 2001 and a record low of -0.50 percent in December of 2016.

Would appear to beating inflation in recent years.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
Every member state has the power of veto. Name one member state government who isn’t going to use that power to stop themselves apparently becoming little more than a local EU council. They’re not are they.
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Just like every UK citizen has the right to free speech...as long as it is PC of course

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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
We had the discussion on Jersey before. Jersey did a deal in the Blair era which effected EU countries and involved passing information to EU countries of residence. That is not an anecdote. I posted the latest Romanian figures and explained that if you took out the world crash 2008 and 2009, you get a clearer picture of what is actually happening. That is not an anecdote.
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You knowing for a fact is not fact. You are an incredibly biased individual.

And as for Romania big much better off since you visited...dont worry that's me being facetious

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dutchman

dutchman

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martcov said:
Does Spain or the EUSSR do gulags? Or are you making things up?
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Yes:

Catalan politicians struggle with Spanish prison regime

"Eight men and women who once governed seven million Catalans are now having to ask their families to put money onto pre-paid cards in order to be able to buy a packet of biscuits from the prison store.

On Sundays, prisoners from all wings in Soto del Real are allowed to come together for a church service. This can prove to be the most dangerous time. During one recent Mass, attended by Jordi Sànchez, one prisoner stabbed another.

The families are allowed to give the inmates winter clothes - particularly useful given the fact that the prison's heating is switched off at night. Prison food is described by one of their lawyers as horrendous ("I don't ask them for precise details," he said drily.)

The potential penalties are severe. If convicted of rebellion, the former cabinet ministers face up to 35 years in prison. The two activists, who face the lesser charge of sedition, face a maximum sentence of 10 years."

Or am I making this up?
 
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martcov

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dutchman said:
Yes:

Catalan politicians struggle with Spanish prison regime

"Eight men and women who once governed seven million Catalans are now having to ask their families to put money onto pre-paid cards in order to be able to buy a packet of biscuits from the prison store.

On Sundays, prisoners from all wings in Soto del Real are allowed to come together for a church service. This can prove to be the most dangerous time. During one recent Mass, attended by Jordi Sànchez, one prisoner stabbed another.

The families are allowed to give the inmates winter clothes - particularly useful given the fact that the prison's heating is switched off at night. Prison food is described by one of their lawyers as horrendous ("I don't ask them for precise details," he said drily.)

The potential penalties are severe. If convicted of rebellion, the former cabinet ministers face up to 35 years in prison. The two activists, who face the lesser charge of sedition, face a maximum sentence of 10 years."

Or am I making this up?
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I don’t know. What is your source? At the moment he is in Neumünster remand prison. Which may not be paradise, but not as bad as what you describe. If your information is true, then maybe he has an argument against extradition. I don’t know.

I cannot read the source on my phone.
 
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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
Ah sorry, a different mart obviously

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No, a totally different question. Me saying I want to have a second passport because some people have changed my status without allowing me a vote is a reaction to something to my potential detriment. It wasn’t me that voted for a blue passport with less rights.
 
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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
You knowing for a fact is not fact. You are an incredibly biased individual.

And as for Romania big much better off since you visited...dont worry that's me being facetious

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I posted a link about wage increases. Romania is a massive country coming from a position of ruin after communism. It is poor, but not as poor as it was. There are great differences in wealth, mainly between some parts of big cities and the country.
 
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