Astute
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So the EU isn't that goid then considering we are the biggest exporter in it.
So the EU isn't that goid then considering we are the biggest exporter in it.3% of their exports come to the uk according to the article. It’s 11500 miles away. Good, but relatively insignificant.
So is that a negative for the EU as well then?Stop being negative. NZ has a population of 4.6M they’re easily worth the risk of leaving a free trade agreement with 508M on our doorstep for.
Why do you have to make up rubbish all the time?They? Who are they? Them and us. Always them and us nowadays. Who pushed the them and us? NF, BNP, Britain First? For Britain, Nigel Farage. Now you speak the same language. Shows how the country has changed over the last couple of years. They... in this case... seems to be Arab refugees. Why don’t you at least give „them“ a name or description?
If only you could look at the situation without your pro EU goggles on.
What I have said countless times is that the EU needs reform. Even you agree with me here. But reform is the last thing on the agenda. People power is rising. I am not saying that it is a good thing. But all the EU wants to do is make the EU bigger without fixing what is wrong.
Being able to see what trouble could lie ahead isn't being anti EU. It is being realistic. And yes I do blame the EU for the direction that they are taking the whole thing in.
Italy has major problems. The EU answer is to close the borders. Or at least they did nothing to keep the borders open. But I suppose they didn't want to upset Macron. So where is the help for Italy and Greece? We are all supposed to be in it together.
You keep making out that there is only peace in Europe because of the EU. There had been peace for many years before the EU came about. So what has the EU done that has kept the peace?
As I have said before if it carries on like this there is more chance of it causing trouble than stopping it. It keeps the rich richer and the poor poorer. If anti EU sentiment carries on at this rate it won't be long before it gets out of hand. But you just can't see it. And before you say it I don't want it to happen. And before you say it won't happen just look at Italy. Nobody knows what will happen next.
So is that a negative for the EU as well then?
Of course not. Your negativity only goes one way.
Wish or hope for an EU breakup?The EU needs reform. It must adapt. Not at any price though.
The EU didn’t just come about. It goes back to the first deals on coal and steel signed between countries that had fought against each other twice in the first half of the last century. A major step towards peaceful cooperation which has evolved into the EU. To want that to break up and be replaced by sovereign nation states which we know from experience, war against each other, is a totally flawed concept. Anyone who wishes the break up of the EU is either a fascist or denying reality. I put you under denying reality. I know where I would put Farage etc..
By all means critise and work with others to make things better. With you all the way, but to wish or hope for a Brexit style break up is crazy. Not that you necessarily want that, but Farage and his fans do.
Are you claiming that Grece and Italy get no help from the EU? Do you think Italy with the Lira and constant currency crises and devaluations, which ended up with collapsing governments, was better than the Euro? People like to forget the past and make out that Italy‘s problems started wit
So it isn't needed because there is only 4m people?No, it is a positive for the EU because there are 28 countries involved with 500m people. The amount of trade with the bloc is more than just 3% and the potential is far greater than for just one country.
The EU is not desperately knocking on everyone‘s door for a trade deal, so it more of an extra than a necessity. The more the merrier.
So the EU isn't that goid then considering we are the biggest exporter in it.
So it isn't needed because there is only 4m people?
Make your mind up. It is either good or bad.11500 miles may give you a clue.
Wish or hope for an EU breakup?
Not at all. I was all for reform. Then Barnier said no chance. But you missed it every time it was brought up.
You keep saying that the EU is strong. You even try to brush off the racist vote in Germany. You blame everyone except the EU for everything.
So what help are they giving Greece and Italy after the borders were closed and all the refugees were left stranded?
And everyone knows you were saying that it was a payment made to farmers Mr Keyboardwarrior.
Make your mind up. It is either good or bad.
I am pointing out that AfD represents 12,5% of the vote in Germany and less than 6% in the state where I live. Call it brushing off if you want.
Billshit. You kept calling it farmers money. How much of it went to farmers and how much went to the rich landowners?Ha ha ha. what a clown you are
astute
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I've just shown you multiple times where I not only haven't said what you're trying to say I have but I've only actually said Land Owners, everytime. Maybe "Astute" is meant to be ironic?
- having or showing an ability to accurately assess situations or people and turn this to one's advantage.
Look back. You agreed with the keyboard warrior that it wasn't worth it to the UK as only 4.6m people live there. But you think that it is great for the EU.All relative as I said at the beginning. Not the most important market in the world. Good if you like lamb though
Look back. You agreed with the keyboard warrior that it wasn't worth it to the UK as only 4.6m people live there. But you think that it is great for the EU.
And the biggest trade partner in the EU is the UK at 20% of the whole trade with the EU. So the other 80% is shared with 27 countries. Average of 3% each.
And this is why stupid arguments start on here. You and others twist the truth frequently. Why can't you be honest so we can have a proper debate?
Mark Carney. One of those who saw an immediate disaster if we voted leave....including inflation rocketing. So now he says inflation is low because we voted leave.
1 in 8 Germans voted for a racist party. That is 1 in 8 too many.
UKIP were always a minority here. But you made them out to be massive.Yes. It is. But, they are no way going to take power in Germany. So, I am irritated that they exist, but they are, as you say, a minority. They are also regional. We don’t like them here.
Mark Carney. One of those who saw an immediate disaster if we voted leave....including inflation rocketing. So now he says inflation is low because we voted leave.
Shows how much some experts know.
How about the link I put up or the last part of my message?He steered us through the immediate shock and has now pointed out what it cost us until now. What happened to the Brexit boom?
UKIP were always a minority here. But you made them out to be massive.
So the AfD don't make the news in Germany?No I didn’t. I made Farage out to be constantly in the news. Which he is. UKIP also caused more damage to the Conservative party and BNP which got the Tories into a panic that may lose more votes and the BNP seems to have been swept away. Result was a referendum which has split the country and slowed growth in relation to other EU countries.
UKIP has poisoned the atmosphere. Long gone is „Cool Britannia“. Now we have „Brexit Britain“. Yuk.
How about the link I put up or the last part of my message?
Brexit boom?
We were supposed to yave crashed and burn by now. So who said a boom while still ruled by the EU?
So the AfD don't make the news in Germany?
Yes. It is. But, they are no way going to take power in Germany. So, I am irritated that they exist, but they are, as you say, a minority. They are also regional. We don’t like them here.
So what has the Express got to do with it?„Brexit Boom“ gets pulled out every now and then by the „Express“. Latest was when the pound got stronger. Only a blip because of speculation about interest rates.
The true effect of Brexit will be felt after we know whether we are leaving with no deal or not.
So why not mention them as often as you mention UKIP then?They make news for the disgusting things they say and get rebuked for. Appeals to their base, but revolts the rest. Making news is not a measure of political power.
Be careful. He will be coming out with fighting talk with you as well.What on Earth is Tony droning on about farming subsidies for?
Billshit. You kept calling it farmers money. How much of it went to farmers and how much went to the rich landowners?
I’ve linked what I said Mr Idiot and I never once called it farmers money, I did call it a farming subsidy though and made the point EVERYTIME I said it that it went to the land owner. Shall I link it all again for you to ignore. You’re making a right idiot of yourself here. Probably why your new best mate has jumped in to defend you at any point. Even he realises that you’re talking complete bollocks.
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