The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (248 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
Westendlad

Westendlad

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Martcov. Forget the politics.....Why does it mean so much to you that the UK remains in the EU. Promise you its not a trick question i'm just interested in why it matters to you personally ?
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
I don’t. And I don‘t want to talk about home if he is being used as a deflection.
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You are using small fry to deflect from what Juncker has done. Then you try to make out that the small fry are worse.

The ones you name are a little voice in the background. The one you defend makes decisions that affect all of us.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
Here you go again. I wanted to stay but understand why people voted leave. I'm leaving because the majority voted leave. I have no choice.
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Yes, but we have no choice. But I want to
Astute said:
Holding areas for immigrants stuck in Spain, Italy and Greece?

The EU can't keep them 3 countries happy not letting new arrivals leave. Germany refuses to agree to them being able to leave. So the EU sets up holding areas once they can bribe countries to have them.
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Your solution is?
 
Astute

Astute

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Westendlad said:
Martcov. Forget the politics.....Why does it mean so much to you that the UK remains in the EU. Promise you its not a trick question i'm just interested in why it matters to you personally ?
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He will tell you that he is British although he has spent most of his life in Germany.

More like the EU is in very troubled times. The money they take off us each year keeps it going. They need us more than we need them. That is why they are trying to force us to stay. Look at the infighting going on now. Fascists are growing by the day. Getting worse in every country. But it could have been so much better. They just went in the wrong direction too many times. Now they are paying the price.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
You are using small fry to deflect from what Juncker has done. Then you try to make out that the small fry are worse.

The ones you name are a little voice in the background. The one you defend makes decisions that affect all of us.
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No I am not. The subject isn’t about Juncker. You keep mentioning Juncker. Why? He has nothing to do with the leave lies and criminals.
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
Yes, but we have no choice. But I want to


Your solution is?
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Put someone in place that wants what is beat for the people and not personal gain or safety from prosecution.

But like you there are many ready to defend the undefendable.
 
Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
No I am not. The subject isn’t about Juncker. You keep mentioning Juncker. Why? He has nothing to do with the leave lies and criminals.
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Why isn't the debate about Juncker? Is it because he is too hard to defend? Why can't we look into what he set up? Those who use the services he set up are called criminals by you. What does that make him?

It is him that caused all this bullshit. It is him that is continuing with all this bullshit. Yet you say it is nothing to do with him.
 
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martcov

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Westendlad said:
Martcov. Forget the politics.....Why does it mean so much to you that the UK remains in the EU. Promise you its not a trick question i'm just interested in why it matters to you personally ?
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It matters to me because I read such inaccurate things on here. People use „them and us“ as if we have nothing to do with the EU. The prominent people who were for leave include some really disgusting and criminal elements. They lie in every interview. Farage uses the same expressions every time to push home his lies. Brexit isn’t working. It cannot work without us losing something. The UK has been led up the garden path by the print media and scoundrels. They already have their excuses ready for the calamity which is coming.

Brexit takes away rights from me. My right to live and work anywhere in the EU. Because of that I have had to take German citizenship- as have 10000 other Brits since Brexit. More have taken Irish citizenship.

Britain had found a place in the EU where it had influence after being a colonial power. It had solved the Irish problem and was one of the best G7 economies as a member of the EU. We had brimful employment. ( Still do in the short term ).

No one that I know, including Brits who live here, thinks that Brexit is a good idea.

I continue to be amazed at people on here who deflect and/ or lie to protect the beloved Brexit.

Watching from outside, I can only gasp in amazement as people condone lying, tax evasion and downright fraud just not to have to accept that Brexit is going pearshaped.

It is a tragedy of our own making and has split the country for years to come.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
You don’t get it do you? Ashcroft is British and is ripping us off and taking people like you who pay UK tax for a ride. But you let him off and go on about a foreign county. No, I don’t like Juncker‘s history, but we are talking about the British scum who don’t pay the full tax on their millions and led people up the garden path in order to keep the pesky EU away from their hidden money. Fara


Who is talking about Polish workers?

We are on a Brexit thread.
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You were asked about Polish workers & quite clearly casually dissmissed them!

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martcov

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Astute said:
Why isn't the debate about Juncker? Is it because he is too hard to defend? Why can't we look into what he set up? Those who use the services he set up are called criminals by you. What does that make him?

It is him that caused all this bullshit. It is him that is continuing with all this bullshit. Yet you say it is nothing to do with him.
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No it isn’t. It is NF admirer Nigel Farage and dishonest journalists. E.g. BoJo sacked twice as a journalist for lying.

Juncker works for the EI and carries out the mandate given to him. Generally very well.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
No, absolutely not. The opposite. The voters in the UK were led up the garden path and now it is becoming increasingly obvious that it wasn’t about economics because we look like losing manufacturing jobs, it wasn’t about controlling our borders because we are miles from that and it wasn’t about controlling our currency because that is going up and down according to the state of negotiations. It was about immigration as far as the masses were concerned, but the people behind leave had various agendas. Helping the working man was not one of them.

I am more pro British people than ever. I also hope that damage done by Brexit to the livelihoods of friends here and myself here is kept to a minimum.

I want leave exposed for what it is and people like Farage, Banks, Ashcroft and the whole lot of their supporters, including the buffoon BoJo held responsible for what they have done.
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You really are hypocritical & tedious beyond belief

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Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
It matters to me because I read such inaccurate things on here. People use „them and us“ as if we have nothing to do with the EU. The prominent people who were for leave include some really disgusting and criminal elements. They lie in every interview. Farage uses the same expressions every time to push home his lies. Brexit isn’t working. It cannot work without us losing something. The UK has been led up the garden path by the print media and scoundrels. They already have their excuses ready for the calamity which is coming.

Brexit takes away rights from me. My right to live and work anywhere in the EU. Because of that I have had to take German citizenship- as have 10000 other Brits since Brexit. More have taken Irish citizenship.

Britain had found a place in the EU where it had influence after being a colonial power. It had solved the Irish problem and was one of the best G7 economies as a member of the EU. We had brimful employment. ( Still do in the short term ).

No one that I know, including Brits who live here, thinks that Brexit is a good idea.

I continue to be amazed at people on here who deflect and/ or lie to protect the beloved Brexit.

Watching from outside, I can only gasp in amazement as people condone lying, tax evasion and downright fraud just not to have to accept that Brexit is going pearshaped.

It is a tragedy of our own making and has split the country for years to come.
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Yet you refuse to look at anything bad about the EU. If you did you would see that it isn't as one sided as you preach.

Untrustworthy? Look no further than Juncker. But you refuse to look at him.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
Why isn't the debate about Juncker? Is it because he is too hard to defend? Why can't we look into what he set up? Those who use the services he set up are called criminals by you. What does that make him?

It is him that caused all this bullshit. It is him that is continuing with all this bullshit. Yet you say it is nothing to do with him.
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I am not interested in Juncker. I am talking about British crooks. You should start a Juncker thread.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
Yet you refuse to look at anything bad about the EU. If you did you would see that it isn't as one sided as you preach.

Untrustworthy? Look no further than Juncker. But you refuse to look at him.
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You are obsessed with Juncker.

No, I don’t think the EU is perfect, but O wouldn’t leave because of that.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
Eas he elected by the people we elected? Who else should elect the head of the civil service? No one as in the UK?
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Lord Archer, Tony Blair & your ideal foil Nigel Farage were also elected. That all went went well didn't it?

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Astute

Astute

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martcov said:
I am not interested in Juncker. I am talking about British crooks. You should start a Juncker thread.
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So this is an EU thread. The most well known person in the EU is Juncker. Mainly because of his dodgy past.

Of course you are not interested in Juncker. He shows how dodgy the whole set up is.
 
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martcov

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Astute said:
So this is an EU thread. The most well known person in the EU is Juncker. Mainly because of his dodgy past.

Of course you are not interested in Juncker. He shows how dodgy the whole set up is.
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No he doesn’t. And you are right I am not interested in someone without legislative power.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
I am attacking the liars and tax dodgers and self interested scum who are behind leave. Not everyone who says anything against the EU.
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So why not show neutrality? You simply will not admit that because it is a much larger scale than the UK alone, there are many more liars, tax dogers & self interested scum (like Mr Martcov Dual-Nationality) favpuring the EU

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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
Yes, but we have no choice. But I want to


Your solution is?
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There was a simple choice. Stay or go. The majority decision won the day. It didn't go the way you or I voted. C'est la vie

So the next xhpice is ypu side & stick with Britain or piss off elsewhere. But of cpurse you had already done that...wanted the benefits the UK provides without benefitting the UK it seems (other than leaving it!)

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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
So why not show neutrality? You simply will not admit that because it is a much larger scale than the UK alone, there are many more liars, tax dogers & self interested scum (like Mr Martcov Dual-Nationality) favpuring the EU

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WTF?

The leave campaign has shown what scum there is. Most people in Europe are not interested in Brexit and don’t want to leave the EU.

I am not a tax dodger nor scum. I also haven’t been to Trump Tower or Moscow.

I have dual nationality, but pay tax in Germany..., not Belize or Malta.
 
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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
There was a simple choice. Stay or go. The majority decision won the day. It didn't go the way you or I voted. C'est la vie

So the next xhpice is ypu side & stick with Britain or piss off elsewhere. But of cpurse you had already done that...wanted the benefits the UK provides without benefitting the UK it seems (other than leaving it!)

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What was the decision on how we leave? Please let May know ASAP because she hasn’t got a clue what you voted for.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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martcov said:
I am not interested in Juncker. I am talking about British crooks. You should start a Juncker thread.
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So only Britain has crooks now? Or only the crooks in Britain interest you? What??? Please explain...coz this is goi g the same way as your Pokish worker theme

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Westendlad

Westendlad

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martcov said:
WTF?

The leave campaign has shown what scum there is. Most people in Europe are not interested in Brexit and don’t want to leave the EU.

I am not a tax dodger nor scum. I also haven’t been to Trump Tower or Moscow.

I have dual nationality, but pay tax in Germany..., not Belize or Malta.
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Why do you keep referring to people you voted Leave' scum ?
 
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