That HAS to be the quote of the threadBecause I won’t be distracted by crap?
Yes...well I believe that if you desert Britain for something better elsewhere...you give up the rights you left behind & accept those that apply to where you perceived the grass was greenerI told you. Brexit takes some of my rights away. Also, I am British and I don’t want us to lose anything based on downright leave lies. The UK has been conned.
If you say so. Most people know it isn't true. You just make bullshit up to deflect from Juncker.No it isn’t. It is NF admirer Nigel Farage and dishonest journalists. E.g. BoJo sacked twice as a journalist for lying.
Juncker works for the EI and carries out the mandate given to him. Generally very well.
You are as self interested as the Brexiteers you condemn imo...you raised the term 'scum' in relation to them - yet you are their equal but oppositeWTF?
The leave campaign has shown what scum there is. Most people in Europe are not interested in Brexit and don’t want to leave the EU.
I am not a tax dodger nor scum. I also haven’t been to Trump Tower or Moscow.
I have dual nationality, but pay tax in Germany..., not Belize or Malta.
Yet you choose to ignore the remain lies. Just a one sided debate to you. In fact not a debate. Just a one sided argument with no decent points from you being put forwardI told you. Brexit takes some of my rights away. Also, I am British and I don’t want us to lose anything based on downright leave lies. The UK has been conned.
Well she only has to ask me & I will tell her the same I have told you.What was the decision on how we leave? Please let May know ASAP because she hasn’t got a clue what you voted for.
You love Juncker so much that I thought you would pay tax into one of his schemes in Luxembourg.I have dual nationality, but pay tax in Germany..., not Belize or Malta.
Just the same as AfD isn't a problem in Germany but Farage is a massive problem in the UK. He has lost touch with reality.Why do you keep referring to people you voted Leave' scum ?
Yep...He's lost the plot, even his lefty chums have abandoned him lolJust the same as AfD isn't a problem in Germany but Farage is a massive problem in the UK. He has lost touch with reality.
To be perfectly fair, she hasn't got a clue about anything!What was the decision on how we leave? Please let May know ASAP because she hasn’t got a clue what you voted for.
Ah right so a selfish point of view.....Now we're getting somewhere
You are as self interested as the Brexiteers you condemn imo...you raised the term 'scum' in relation to them - yet you are their equal but opposite
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Yep...He's lost the plot, even his lefty chums have abandoned him lol
If you say so. Most people know it isn't true. You just make bullshit up to deflect from Juncker.
Yes...well I believe that if you desert Britain for something better elsewhere...you give up the rights you left behind & accept those that apply to where you perceived the grass was greener
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That HAS to be the quote of the thread
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Why do you keep referring to people you voted Leave' scum ?
So only Britain has crooks now? Or only the crooks in Britain interest you? What??? Please explain...coz this is goi g the same way as your Pokish worker theme
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It is pointless asking about any workers outside of possibly Germany (but you might not care about them either!)
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His principles & actions have an awful lot to do with the reasons the UK voted to leave
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There was a simple choice. Stay or go. The majority decision won the day. It didn't go the way you or I voted. C'est la vie
So the next xhpice is ypu side & stick with Britain or piss off elsewhere. But of cpurse you had already done that...wanted the benefits the UK provides without benefitting the UK it seems (other than leaving it!)
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So why not show neutrality? You simply will not admit that because it is a much larger scale than the UK alone, there are many more liars, tax dogers & self interested scum (like Mr Martcov Dual-Nationality) favpuring the EU
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Lord Archer, Tony Blair & your ideal foil Nigel Farage were also elected. That all went went well didn't it?
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Yourself included obviously
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I am not leading people up the garden path and I pay my taxes. I don’t have a hedge fund or diamond mine. I am not a racist, not an extremist.
I don’t want to lose basic freedoms. You say that puts me in the same bracket as a Belize based multi millionaire tax dodger and habitual liar?
I would have thought that most sensible people don’t want to be worse off after Brexit. Apparently you are ok with losing rights and the country possibly taking a hit so that some people can carry out their own agenda. Weird... ,
So the EU is going to take away your rights Mart. Not the UK!!! The change to your citizenship is being requested by 1 peron - YOU. Why? Because you want your bread buttered both sides. You could have simply waited to see how things pan out as there seems to be this retaining an EU passport option...but you want to be German instead. Which is fine...the rest of us seem happy & proud to be BritishI didn’t leave any rights behind. My rights are guaranteed throughout the EU. The EU is not allowed to take away rights that people already have.
If the UK leaves the EU, then my rights are no longer guaranteed. Hence me getting German citizenship.
The change was made by people voting leave. Not by me.
What are you on about? I was talking about Brexit crooks. People try and talk about totally different „crooks“ as a distraction. I said we were talking about specific British crooks who led people in Britain up the garden path.
No - I think you are making yourself look very sillyDo you think I am taking the piß out of you?
You seem to have some pretty entrenched extreme views in favour of the EU.
Extreme? I just said that I am in favour of the EU.
Nobody has lost anything, except you - the plot!!!...& again - you seem to have a pretty extreme view of what our Goernment is going to do regarding it's citizens post-Brexit. What I said was equal but opposite to them...& I maintain that
People will lose the right to live and work anywhere in the EU and the rights that they have in the EU will no longer be guaranteed.
I don’t have an extreme view of what our government is going to do, because neither I nor the government know what they are going to do. At this moment in time we don’t have an agreement for when we leave. If it stays like that we are in big trouble. Nothing to do with my opinion. Just a fact.
Again...nobody has lost anything except you - the plot!!! As for worse off...the average man in the street such as most of us on here will not notice any major changes to our lives. Maybe travelling abroad within the EU will be a bit different because it will become akin to travelling to Turkey when going through the border.
Probably true that most won’t notice a big difference, but it is unlikely that most will be better off or that their lives will be in any way better. More likely GDP will slow or schrink at least in the short term.
Brexit is unlikely to have been worth the trouble and the government will be busy limiting any potential damage.
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So the EU is going to take away your rights Mart. Not the UK!!! The change to your citizenship is being requested by 1 peron - YOU. Why? Because you want your bread buttered both sides. You could have simply waited to see how things pan out as there seems to be this retaining an EU passport option...but you want to be German instead. Which is fine...the rest of us seem happy & proud to be British
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I bet you have left your bunker & come back to Britain to use the NHS...& continue to do so. So there is one for a start.What benefits do I get from the UK? Does sticking with Britain mean giving up the democratic right to oppose something which you don’t agree with? Sticking with Britain means calling out the people who are taking us out of the EU. That is what I am doing.
Just because people thought different to you - you have swallowed media crap about who voted for what & why. Through your EU tinted glsses, you outwardly refuse to accept that very very similarly disposed individuals exist throughout the German, French etc & EU corridors of power.
QUOTE="martcov, post: 1565274, member: 5800"]That is not an assertion that the only crooks in the world are British crooks. It is a reminder to cut out the whataboutery when talking about specific people e.g. the Belize based, Panama Papers Lord who has backed Brexit for his own purposes. Astute says he only dodged a bit of tax which is ok by him. He is, however, a serial tax dodger and only gave up his seat in the Lords because he would have to pay tax in Britain. Do you think that Lord Ashcroft is a good example of a Brexit voter? Would you criticise him, or rather talk about people who may be crooks, but have no direct dealings in Britain?
You don’t like democracy do you? Yes, sometimes bad people get elected. What do you suggest? Monarchy? Dictatorship? Anarchy? Religious head of government?
With democracy you can at least vote people out if things are not going well. Laws can be changed and the system can evolve.
I am interested in your alternative. Irreversibel referenda on every subject under the sun?
I bet you have left your bunker & come back to Britain to use the NHS...& continue to do so. So there is one for a start.
Sticking with Britain does not mean slating everything Brexit & insulting those that want it
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But it is you that wants to flex democracy to the point that it fits with your view of how the world should be...not me
I am in favour of democracy. We are in one & it will evolve as Brexit comes about.
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No - I think you are making yourself look very silly
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