clint van damme
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the trouble is they collude with an Australian press mogul to influence the masses to get the result they want.
By the way, I'm not in favour of a federal Europe been mooted on here.
If we don't like what the EU does we can do nothing other than leave. If we don't like what the British politicians do we vote against them. Just like the majority who voted in the referendum did. So yes at least we have a say.
I know he didn't say it. I was just pointing out the double standards on here. As in 'I'm not listening to that thick anti EU racist at all unless I can find something he said that might help those that don't agree with the majority that could be bothered to vote'He never said it. Stupot actually put up a link that quotes him to saying no to a second referendum. I quoted it in my previous post. Bizarre
The way to can this narrow win rubbish is for parliament to pass a referendum act that makes it mandatory for them to enact the result of any future referendum if the result is over (say) 55% for a change and to do nothing otherwise. As it stands they can ignore any result if they wish. I'm pretty sure they'll fudge the issue & no one will get what they want in the end.He never said it. Stupot actually put up a link that quotes him to saying no to a second referendum. I quoted it in my previous post. Bizarre
I know he didn't say it. I was just pointing out the double standards on here. As in 'I'm not listening to that thick anti EU racist at all unless I can find something he said that might help those that don't agree with the majority that could be bothered to vote'
And the vote was wrong because the Sun said out?the trouble is they collude with an Australian press mogul to influence the masses to get the result they want.
By the way, I'm not in favour of a federal Europe been mooted on here.
If thats the case Sick, you can hardly blame the referendum being the catalyst.
I can see those MP's in London getting away with it. But most of the rest of the country voted leave. If they don't listen to their constituents they will get voted out next time. And they know it.The way to can this narrow win rubbish is for parliament to pass a referendum act that makes it mandatory for them to enact the result of any future referendum if the result is over (say) 55% for a change and to do nothing otherwise. As it stands they can ignore any result if they wish. I'm pretty sure they'll fudge the issue & no one will get what they want in the end.
So anyone who doesn't agree with you is ill informed if they don't agree with you.....including other people that previously came here to live?I wonder how many other ill-informed people are out there?
He planted the seed. He'd have wanted one had it been a narrow brexit defeat.He never said it. Stupot actually put up a link that quotes him to saying no to a second referendum. I quoted it in my previous post. Bizarre
So anyone who doesn't agree with you is ill informed if they don't agree with you.....including other people that previously came here to live?
And if the Tories get voted in around where I live in the next generation election I want to be governed by another party.Considering that there is a real thirst to see justice served, should London be allowed to break away and remain in the EU and stop funding the poorer regions of the country? After all, many on this forum complain of the same thing about Britain and the Eastern European countries.
So who is ill informed then?Are you on the wind up?
You should try reading my post again unless you agree that we have aleady left the EU and a new law has been passed banning anyone from entering the country.
Ha ha ha
So who is ill informed then?
Won't be anyone who voted remain in your eyes will it.
It'd funny that she never had any problems until the campaigning started though. There seems to be a general ignorance amongst a lot of the population about what is going on. Someone at work asked me yesterday what we were going to do now that the 'new law' had been passed that stopped immigrants entering the country; he genuinely thought we were already out of the EU and literally shut the borders.
I wonder how many other ill-informed people are out there?
Anyway we are off to the power hungry EU today for a couple of weeks to escape this miserable island.
Exactly, that's the point is they are bad for us then we get rid of them. We can. General elections or otherwise.
Answers please. How do we get rid of juncker, tusk or Schulz? The 3 biggest presidents in the EU.
So nobody listens to a word Farage says as he is a racist idiot and would never have a chance of making decisions as he will never get into power. But if he says there should be a revote he must be right
And the vote was wrong because the Sun said out?
How about Geldof? He thinks he can tell us what we should do. Where would he be without one hit record? I wouldn't put him up as a role model.
The wife put a programme on TV last night that she recorded earlier. It had Adrian Childs on. They went near the Bullring. At one part they were talking to mainly the Indian population. About 70/30 voted leave. They showed others from the ethnic minorities that voted leave. They gave their reasons why. A lot of it was to do with uncontrolled immigration. Are they racist? They mentioned about jobs lost to those coming in willing to work for less. Being here for the money and not wanting to become part of the community. And that was just part of it.
The wife, who was for remain as much as anyone on here, suddenly realised that there was much more to it than she realised. She still thinks we should remain. But her eyes have finally opened up to the problems she hadn't realised really do exist.[/QUOTE/]
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I'm not sure why you're mentioning racism, my point is people were influenced by lies printed in the mainstream media, which is predominantly right wing and in favour of leaving the EU.[/
It's not the person its the system that puts them in place by nomination.Exactly, that's the point is they are bad for us then we get rid of them. We can. General elections or otherwise.
Answers please. How do we get rid of juncker, tusk or Schulz? The 3 biggest presidents in the EU.
So what is going on Sick Boy? Are you basing it all on your own personal experience and not anyone else's?
I have yet to meet anyone that thinks there has been a new law after the referendum. I am yet to meet anyone who thinks anyone who has moved here from the EU should leave, and I have yet to meet anyone who has been subjected to any abuse. We each have different experiences, but don't tar everyone with the same brush just because you have experienced something different.
Before you attack me on the fact of where your partner is from and the abuse that she has received, which I think is abhorrent, take a step back and consider you know nothing of my back ground, and the fact that I have been subjected to such abuse in the past, but nothing, not one thing since the referendum was ever spoken about.
We all have different experiences but it doesn't mean, that all or most from one group are ignorant or ill informed.
Who voted remain?Ha ha ha ha. You sound like a petulant child.
This person actually voted remain.
Show us where these claims are then. You have been very good at twisting words so far.I'm not basing it all on my own experiences but she certainly hasn't been the only one to fall victim of xenophobic abuse.
What do you expect when you have posters claiming that claims of racism are made up and some kind of conspiracy theory? It's massively insulting. Very few posters on this thread have even bothered to challenge such a viewpoint.
Show us where these claims are then. You have been very good at twisting words so far.
I will tellyou what is very insulting. It is people insinuating that those who voted leave are racists and uneducated. There will be racists and the uneducated on both sides of the vote. Anyone who disagrees is in denial. Or just after point scoring. The whole thing is a shambles.
Hilarious.
People whinging they've been racially abused in the UK in the last week (don't believe a word of it personally) are running off to Germany and Italy.
Not much right wing racism there then is there.
"In an interview with the Mirror the Ukip leader said such a narrow margin would prompt him to fight for a second referendum.Can't see where he says he would ask for a re run? Just unfinished business he says?
He actually said before this is a once in a lifetime vote. No?
Slightly amusing that sickboy accuses astute of being a petulant child, when a couple of posts earlier he announces a flounce from this "miserable island".
Get a grip man.
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Or on the other hand, the petulant children are the ones who had the vote go against them, but can't accept the decision.The petulant children voted to leave without thinking of the consequences and their 'elitist' leaders legged it when they saw the mess that has to be sorted out.
I never voted to leave as I have said many times. So what is your point when you are sticking up for someone making a childish comment against me?The petulant children voted to leave without thinking of the consequences and their 'elitist' leaders legged it when they saw the mess that has to be sorted out.
The childish ones are those moaning and making accusations against those that didn't vote the same as them.The petulant children voted to leave without thinking of the consequences and their 'elitist' leaders legged it when they saw the mess that has to be sorted out.
For instance if we vote to leave interest rates will go up. After the leave vote they say interest rates will go down. Yet those crying about the result will not admit to such.
And who said any different?Has Article 50 been invoked yet?
As things stand we remain within the EU.
Has Article 50 been invoked yet?
As things stand we remain within the EU.
Yes but we will be leaving the eu just no one knows when.
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